When you say "lack of knowledge" - do you mean knowledge of how to literally pray the hymn (hazzat), or knowledge of the meaning behind the hymn?
Both. However, people tend to sustain the long hymns if they are able to pray along.
I have been to the…
So let me ask you minatasgeel
Is the same number of people who attend the regular liturgy on Sunday also attend the midnight praises, Vesper and Matins prayers?
Thanks.
Long hymns are skipped because of lack of knowledge. This is a fact. That is why it is rare to find a church that prays the long hwc or the long hiteni at the end of the Tasbeha, or the lonh kiahk da'oy inhikanoce and the list goes on. This is the k…
jdeacon,
I do not want to get into a silly argument. Lack of knowledge of hymns brings forth lack of appreciation for hymns and a lack of knowing the hymns. So, the remedy is to educate.
People who like to skip hymns usually have no appreciation for the hymns period or do not have the spiritual depth to withstand a 25 minutes hymn.
This can be treated with education about the Coptic music and how the hymns were developed and how it…
Here is my two cents on the study Bible.
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As I have indicated before, ethnic Copts, whether they are born in Egypt or abroad, should preserve their heritage. Converts should be accommodated through having parishes that tend to their culture within the Coptic rite.
As converts have their la…
Thank you Lifeindeath,
I commend you for submission to the teachings of the Church. I commend you for going back and consulting your spiritual fathers. I commend you coming back and sharing what you have learnt.
Indeed, the Christian worship is ce…
I believe the solution was to order the churches not to start the funeral till communion is over and preserve the original rite.
Regarding the change being from the synod, does anyone has a copy of the text?
It is the Matins praise that start with Dan wosht emfyot nam ebshiri ....
http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Hymns/Major_Feasts_of_the_Lord/Nativity/Ibrahim_Ayad/03_Verses_of_the_Cymbals.1529.mp3
It is incorrectly called the verses of the cymba…
jdeacon,
I agree with you 100%. However, the way I understand it is the change happened because the feast supposedly should last till at least 4:00 pm; at least that is what I read on www.copticheritage.org.
The original rite was to pray the Funeral prayer around 4:00 pm and connected with the 9th and 11th hours of the pascha.
So the feast of Palm Sunday ends around 2:00, people are dismissed then come back for the Funeral prayer and the pascha.
In r…
I am aware of the recent changes that are taking place in the Funeral prayer after Palm Sunday.
In my view it is a shame that we alter the rituals that we have received.
In the SUS we still follow the correct rites.
Thanks.
They must be part of daily christian chores just like prayers.
Not during the Holy 50 days, Sundays, Major and Minor feast days. This is according to the Church teaching.
I understand this is not practiced nowadays but it is out of lack of knowledg…
For the day of the feast you begin with the Matin Doxology, the verses of resurrection then bouro.
As for the matins of the 50 days, you could say Maranwosht, the verses of resurrection then bouro. If there is no time, then the verses of resurrecti…
Since we are so insistent on defending the altar shouldn't we reverence the most important living ones rather than the one with no will that serves only as a symbol of the ones which will live forever?
Here the writer believes that the altar is a me…
All of the altars we have are symbols for the living altars where God lives - which is us!
This is incorrect according to the Bible and the teaching of the Church.
In Isaiah 19:19 the prophecy concerning the altar was the Christian altar for the E…
The Presence of the second person of the Trinity in relation to the altar is very different to the Eucharist, firstly because the performance of the Mayroon is ascribed to the Holy Spirit not the Son and secondly the Mayroon is for the consecration …
the altar being holy is a fundamental part in making this happen but it is not enough to say the altar alone is responsible for the integrity of our Eucharist.
What do you mean by “the integrity of our Eucharist”? Did you hear or read this expressio…
There is nothing in my post to illustrate that I confined the time the altar was holy to when the Son is on it, you've just invented this interpretation.
Let’s see what you said earlier:
The altar is holy and commanding of our reverence but it …
He does not personally unified Himself with the throne of the altar, but He will unify Himself eternally with us by sitting as Lord and Master in the throne of our hearts.
The earthy altars we consecrate the mysteries on will wear, erode and eventu…
What is the Incense censor? It is a symbol of St Mary – a real person - who really carried the Divine fire!
Yes this is true. However, we must realize what the censor is. It is an altar that is dedicated to God and to His worship. We must different…