The reason we know is from a manuscript that explains the rite in lower and Upper Egypt written by Shams Al Reyasa IbnBrakat.
Yes bishops could change the rites as they wish. However, one characteristic of the Orthodox Church is that one generation…
I agree with you Fr. Peter.
In fact each Church, in Egypt, had slightly different rites. Each region had different rites. However, all the rites have been fixed by the 15th century throughout all of Egypt.
The change we are facing now is not for a…
That is not the case with all liturgies during the Great Lent (e.g. some liturgies start at 12pm). Most churches pray only one or two liturgies late. The majority of days, the sun has not yet during communion.
I understand what you are saying Unowth…
also, i was just looking for the vespers Bible readings as it's liturgy tomorrow but there aren't any. i thought you have vespers when there is (or could be liturgy) and you don't have vespers when there is no liturgy.
can someone explain? i have ob…
about tomorrow, is it ok to prostrate in church on a saturday?
i know sundays u shouldn't do a full prostration and weekdays you can, but i am confused about saturdays.
Saturdays are treated the same as Sundays in rituals and hymns.
The only Satur…
During the holy fifty days it is beneficial to focus on resurrection of our Lord through which we will also be resurrected and be transformed from being earthly being heavenly.
The Gospels during the 50 days are all about the heaven and eternity an…
Also isn't the pharse "it (the Resurrection event) ...is a blessed means of recalling our attention to the events of the resurrection" is the definition of remembrance? Shouldn't "Resurrection Remembrance" be adequate?
I am not sure what else we wo…
Dear Fr Peter,
Solid food is a relative term and is infinite in terms of spirituality. The great Abba Antony would say that he was still on the beginning of the road even after 70 years in the desert.
What I meant is when a Church of non converts …
In a way yes, let me explain.
Epiclesis or the invocation of the Holy Spirit leads the Church into anamnesis which is the mystery of experiencing the actual salvation deeds through the Eucharist. It is not a passive experience where we just remembe…
I agree again Fr Peter.
However, a church of converts differ than a church of migrants. A church of converts needs to accommodate the members as babes that just get milk and help them grow to get to the solid food.
A church of migrants, as the one…
I agree completely with Fr. Peter as the goal is a continuous improvement and spiritual growth. This is very true for a startup congregation or a church of newly converts.
However, what I have experienced in the last several years is that there is …
The reliving of the event is through the calling of the Holy Spirit. This done ONLY in the liturgical service. However the resurrection enactment idoes not have the calling of the Holy Spirit.
Dear Remenkimi,
During the liturgy prayer, according to the teaching of the Church, we are living the same exact moments of the events of salvation. For example, when the priest says:"He took bread in His hands ...." We are actually living these mo…
I did not say it is the general trend .. I said:
IF THE GENERAL TREND IS TO SKIP HYMNS AND RUSH SERVICES, THEN THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG SPIRITUALLY.
Thanks
Don't judge the masses since you don't know them or their circumstances. Worry about YOURSELF.
If the general trend is to skip hymns and rush services, then there is something wrong spiritually.
Then, you have not understood what I wrote. I never suggested to have a 5 hour liturgies.
I do not think it is a choice between skipping hymns and having a 5 hour liturgy. For example the choice of praying Mighalo or skipping it will not extend a …
jdeacon,
Read my comments closely before you argue. I said the general trend is to shorten the prayer time and to yield to the pressures of life.
Thanks.
It is the job of the priest to make his congregation spiritually. If the priest does not like hymns from the start, then the congregation won't like. This is a HUGE problem.
At that point I won't blame the congregation but I will put the burden on …
minatasgeel,
We are not here talking about the Law or the Jews. We are talking about praising God. If more people know the hymns musically and spiritually, the more they will enjoy being on the church.
Thanks.