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Death entered into the world as a result of Adam and Eve disobeying God. What kind of death? Was it just spiritual? Was it just physical? Or was it both? I would say both types of death entered into the world. Before the Fall, Adam and Eve lived in …
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12054.msg143070#msg143070 date=1313147684] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143069#msg143069 date=1313147049] [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12054.msg143052#msg143052 date=1313119059] [quote autho…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12054.msg143052#msg143052 date=1313119059] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143051#msg143051 date=1313118264] No it is not. Immaculate conception is that St Mary herself was born without sin. We, Orthod…
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12054.msg143050#msg143050 date=1313118094] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143049#msg143049 date=1313117803] It seems that the Latin fathers and the Eastern ones differ on this issue. The Eastern Tradi…
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The Church Tradition believes that the Virgin bore Jesus without pain and the Tasbeha preserves this Tradition.
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My comments are in Red [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12035.msg143026#msg143026 date=1313096018] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12035.msg143006#msg143006 date=1313071689] Adam and Watos refer both to the days and the tune. [/quote] [quote …
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[quote author=mabsoota link=topic=9585.msg143017#msg143017 date=1313087515] cephas and imikhail, please chill out. cephas, can you please abstain from being so rude? thanks mabsoota. [/quote] Thanks mabsoota for being a sound of reason. It is unfo…
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To my dear reader, The reason you see the following repeated is because of its utmost importance. There is no room for wavering when it comes to the absolute truth of the scriptures. But it is important to keep in mind that the Bible is inspired te…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg143007#msg143007 date=1313074003] + Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg143004#msg143004 date=1313071269] But it is important to keep in mind that the Bible is inspired text but is not i…
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Adam and Watos refer both to the days and the tune. There are doxologies that are classified as either Adam or Watos and are prayed using the same tune (e.g. the annual tune) but are only prayed on the days that are Adam and Watos respectively.
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But it is important to keep in mind that the Bible is inspired text but is not inerrant. In matters of spiritual truths, it is. But that’s it. ACCORDING TO THE ORIENTAL ORTHODOX CHURCH .. THIS IS A HERESY THAT WAS PART OF THE PROTESTANT MOVEMENT. W…
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I am not sure what your question entails, can you please elaborate?
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As for universal salvation, get it through your thick skull; that is not what I’m suggesting (neither is Metropolitan Kallistos). We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not. We know where the Holy Spirit works; we do not know where …
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You sure about that? I don’t need to go far but let’s take a look at the Gospels. How many times did the **** crow before Peter denied Christ 3 times? How many angels were at the empty grave? Where were the angels at the empty grave? There are inc…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=11834.msg142947#msg142947 date=1313017023] [quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11834.msg141332#msg141332 date=1310482011] Hosh Aana = literally "keep from us"; in rendition--save us; or keep bad from being aroun…
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Anyone serving in the Altar should be wearing the tonia. People Serving outside should be wearing their tonyas only during the liturgy service right before the ajbeya prayers.
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[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=11834.msg142926#msg142926 date=1312979355] Why do we use the Shanini tune for the feast of the cross? How are Palm Sunday and the Feast of the Cross related to have the same tune? [/quote] Jesus' entry to Jerus…
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Bishop Kallistos Ware does not believe that everyone will be saved. He lives with the hope that all may be saved by the mercy of God. That is a huge difference. The Lord showed us the ONLY way of salvation. If one chooses not to follow it, then he …
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There are too many issues that are covered in this thread. So, let's address one by one. Adam and Eve's death before the fall: 1. All your bible verses talk about Adam after the Fall. None of them talk about Adam before the Fall. Therefore, to say …
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[quote author=Tenacpi esna onkh link=topic=12028.msg142927#msg142927 date=1312982284] Who was the angel of Annunciation? and who was the angel of the nativity/Christmas/ el milad? (i think they are supposed to be different )? [b]According to the Ch…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142911#msg142911 date=1312953516] + Irini nem ehmot, Seeing as how you've already made your decision about what you believe, what the deuce was the point of this entire conversation? FYI: Both Sts. John Chrys…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142908#msg142908 date=1312951809] + Irini nem ehmot, Perhaps this will help elucidate my position a bit more: "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. All the categorical strength and point of this aphorism lies in its t…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142911#msg142911 date=1312953516] + Irini nem ehmot, Seeing as how you've already made your decision about what you believe, what the deuce was the point of this entire conversation? FYI: Both Sts. John Chrys…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142907#msg142907 date=1312950864] + Irini nem ehmot, Always absolutes with you. Whatever helps you sleep at night. [/quote] The Bible is absolute. God's commandments are absolute. The Church is founded on abs…
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If there is no salvation outside the Church, then there is no salvation without baptism.
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142902#msg142902 date=1312949630] + Irini nem ehmot, To say God cannot save whomever He wishes limits God's abilities. You sure you want to walk down that road? [/quote] God put orders and rules and there are…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142899#msg142899 date=1312948873] + Irini nem ehmot, What you said is our nature is transformed and becomes incorruptible. That is not true. Likewise, the eternal death you speak of is not washed away per se. …
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg142896#msg142896 date=1312947905] + Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg142895#msg142895 date=1312947059] Baptism does not transform our nature. Baptism is the mean of allowing us to gr…
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Baptism does not transform our nature. Baptism is the mean of allowing us to grow in Christ (Theosis). Baptism does transform our corruptible nature into incorruptible so that we may inherit the Kingdom. Without baptism, no one will inherit the kin…
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The notion regarding whether Adam would have not tasted death had he not committed sin is not clear from the Church Fathers as the issue they dealt with was the corruption of msn's nature and the eternal death. But we can find the answers from the …