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Dear Arsani thank you very much [coptic]Pamenrit Arcani ]sephmot ntotk emasw Oujai qen P[C[/coptic]
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Dear abanoub2000, Sorry didn't realise that you took the time to reply to my original post. Unfortunately, I did what you advised and didn't find anything... any other suggestions? [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Completely agree with ebshois_nai_nan... but my pestering question would be: would any of those apps work with android phone, like HTC? Please let me know as soon as possible. I hope you give me the desired answer (having an HTC desire phone :-)) [c…
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[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=9459.msg119394#msg119394 date=1284585457] Does this mean anything to you folks?... The ancient Egyptian name of the country is Kemet (km.t), which means "black land", referring to the fertile black soils of …
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Dear all, I'm so impressed by the number of you who are trying to learn Arabic to get more involved and understand more the Coptic liturgy... and now you see where this is going... it's really so sad we left out the original language of the church a…
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I guess the Lord encourages his creation on seeking what they can do best to help others and fulfill their own potential wherever they can. The Lord Himself did not stay all His life in Nazareth but did "immigrate" somehow [coptic]Oujai q[/coptic][c…
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So the simple short answer for me is: No, I don't count myself as Arabic. [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Ok, I think I ought to clarify some specific points here; I feel people are asking each other questions, and answers come in different directions to the questions asked. Not sure of many of you, but I am someone (like a few here) who was born in Egy…
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Didn't allow me to install the .exe file Mina... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Oh sorry, after all forgot to answer the thread question; basically my answer cannot be said any better than what ilovesaintmark, geomike, and pharoh123 already said. To summarise I am in Egyptian (Coptic) with Egyptian (pharaonic) roots who my ance…
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So many enlightening posts and comments that I think we're all benefiting from. Let me just make one point very clear: we as Christians in expressing disapproval of how muslims live their lives or go about their brutal ways prefer considering oursel…
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[quote author=cop link=topic=9605.msg118278#msg118278 date=1282071977] i have an amazing one, pm me.... [/quote] Is it in Coptic?
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[quote author=Pi Onkh link=topic=7189.msg117996#msg117996 date=1281613807] I have a friend who is Chaldean Catholic (Iraq) who still speaks the original language of his people.(Kildani). I found out that all of people who are from the Chaldean Catho…
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to me, it just doesn't make since to change the liturgies themselves as part of the revival of Pope Cyril IV or the proposed pronunciation of Mr. Erian. why did they need to do that if we have been holding arabic as a 2nd language for a long time be…
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Yes Mina, I wasn't contesting that second point about replacing some pharaonic words with idolous connotations with Greek ones to draw the newly converted Christians away from paganism. What I recently heard is that the deacons responses (especiall…
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i am not entirely sure about comments from mina and superman. I hope somebody may be able to research further and correct me if I am wrong but the presence of Greek in our liturgies as I recently heard was only introduced in the 19th century and not…
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guys, first of all giving out presents is fine and one of the powerful methods of teaching especially for younger children. You ought to really consider it for your whole life and not only teaching hymns. I can see where Mina is coming from and I do…
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What is Egyptian then Mina? It is Coptic (Coptic means Egyptian, doesn't it?), not Bohairic, not Sa'idic, not general Coptic as in mo'aqab as you say. So what is it? [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=9305.msg115216#msg115216 date=1275888680] In my own life, liturgically speaking, I do what my bishop tells me. I will present my opinion, I will even argue against something, but when he says that he has con…
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thanks Fr. Peter for your comments and questions. As much as they are enlightening they also provide me with food for thought. Now to begin with I have to again say it loud and clear that I'm still learning and I'm a novice. But in addition to what …
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Dear jydeacon, Thanks for answering the question Fr. Peter originally asked me. Dear Fr. Peter and all, To me the problems seems even more complicated. What jydeacon says makes sense, but not necessarily the current practice. Now even vespers praise…
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Yes Fr. Peter, you are right. I got that wrong, and I am sorry for that. I was confused but I should have meant the vespers praises, not the vespers raising of incense. However, even the vespers praises follow the tune of Sunday and psalis follow su…
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And how closing the curtains contradicts materialising the mysteries? In fact, I don't think this is a valid argument in the first place. Mysteries are called as such because they cannot be materially palpated in the first place. We see Christ by ou…
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[quote author=minagir link=topic=9319.msg115109#msg115109 date=1275712915] for example: we have old sources for almost ALL the 10-15 Greek hymns we have in our church that were borrowed around the time of Pope Kerrelos IV (i think he is the fourth..…
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dear Mina, if that's the case then I don't find any objections to the Pope's proposition but the fact of the matter is that the suggestions made things more confusing to many churches even in Egypt itself. However the Palm Sunday is not and should n…
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Dear jydeacon, I will attempt to answer your questions here, although I am sure you know my opinions well enough, so I hope I am not offending or repeating empty answers. First you said "if you do either one, does it add or take away from the spirit…
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aem581, Any chance you can e-mail it to me as well: ophadece@hotmail.com; thanks a lot in advance [coptic]]sep`hmot `ntotk emasw oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Yes Mina, thanks for answering. I can't find this a valid argument anyway. It still doesn't mean we succumb to changing things to make them appeal to the young or even deacons, or whatever category. You saw yourself what occurred as a result of the …
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Yes Mina, I take your point. But aren't bishops in charge of preserving the tradition? Pope Shenouda included? Or change it according to their own views and knowledge base? Sorry I don't mean to sound harsh or extreme, but unfortunately this is what…