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Well well well... I was actually asleep... where do I start? DEar Christ's servant, It can actually be pronounced both ways. The letter "x" in Greek as ebshoisnainan rightly said is pronounced in their language as kh, but for Coptic it's either sh o…
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So did you all get a grasp of what I was moaning about on this forum two years ago... in addition to el koffar, and the like in the "regular" Kiahk melodies inserted between the much more beautiful and sweet (despite appearing somewhat tricky for tr…
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Are these tunes followed during the Great Lent?
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WELl Mina it's up to you after all, but would you mind letting me know of the good reasons to stop you sharing it? I won't be intrusive but I'm just curious to know... God bless you and pray for us a lot
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And maybe I can see if ouseyou afshai has really been recorded and Mina can share with me
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Dear Fr. Peter, I am so sorry to say this, but I don't mean to be cynical or disheartening. But a simple question is: don't you think it is in the British interests to keep the interior affairs of Egypt up to Egypt's interior ministry? I guess so. L…
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Thanks Mina. That point I made several times before and you always supported it. Very true. Please note that Dr. Moftah's family as I believe was a very rich family and I believe he himself used to pay from his own money for recordings. That's a ver…
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I do believe it is and whatever day it will fall on you'd still serve in it in the middle of vespers service in its own tune that doesn't change. What do other people think?
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NO probs... God bless you and pray for us a lot
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Yes it does. Any chance of sharing that ouseyou afshai?
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I disagree because that would mean that glorifications would change to joyful, kiahky, lenten, etc since they aren't the primary rites. Doesn't make sense to me. The only exception that I learnt is funerals falling on a Sunday, the day of the Lord
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You Mina keep saying hoses when you mean lobsh's... not my fault
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NO YOU DON'T... why do we suppose we are compelled to change the tune of a service once it's sandwiched between two others or directly follows another. Please don't start me again on that but just remember the correct wedding rites come after matins…
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AND did you hear the hymn "ouseyou afshai" somewhere before, THEN I want it. Be careful it's not the Gospel response ya Mina
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Ok this is from the mobile so not concise. First of all canticles are not subject to Adam or Watos but everything else is.... clear? You can have psalies, taodokeyas lobsh's in either tune but canticles, big hos, dan tanou, and dannau are not subjec…
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OK Mina, Now in an attempt to get rid of my confusion, and also make myself clear: You said: "Actually there are many other hymns and responses that are in that book that were not published in new books. as we say in arabic, the hymns "saquto"(liter…
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That's exactly my point. It's a separate set of rites with its own set of tunes and it doesn't change with the ceremonial, as does not the laqqan service, the general funeral, ... etc
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Confused yes but I can't reply to that long post from the mobile. I'll refrain from answering now until I have enough time on a computer...
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I wasn't even talking about laqqan but I personally view it as an independent service in its own right that HAS TO be annual whatever the rites of the day. PRetty much like el tagneez el 3am and the wedding rites in its correct place after any matin…
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And just to confuse things a little bit more cantor Wagdy and recently also cantor Ibrahim recorded vespers for the above feasts in annual tune (as far as I can remember)...
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DEar josephgabriel, Kiahk tune is sung from day one whatever day that falls on. DEar Mina, YOur post is very informative man thanks. NOt meaning to patronize or be cheeky but I'm asking for opinions here: that old teaching you alluded to, where is …
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I don't think the number of the days matter. So even if Kiahk starts on a Monday you'd still say the first Sunday Gospel response for 13 days before switching. That's my understanding but I hope somebody correct me if I'm wrong
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THat's right Joseph. NOw I'm impressed... hehe
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Cantor Zaher is the old cathedral cantor, not the cathedral cantor. The old cathedral is located in el faggala, rather than el 3abbaseya where the current cathedral is. The latter was built in pope Cyril VI's era. Hope this stops the confusion
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=10071.msg123061#msg123061 date=1291179144] I may not necessarily enjoy all of Albair's recording myself BUT i have a great great great deal of respect for him and the work he is doing for his Church. The re…
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I completely understand fr. Peter's point. I agree as well tune is not everything but the Coptic church is not Coptic without her Coptic hymns and therefore it didn't matter at a time of weakening language and becoming more rare as a spoken language…
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NO rush. ANY time whenever you can
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How about sharing ya Mina if you please? [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10071.msg123027#msg123027 date=1291151916] So what was the traditional means of passing on the knowledge of hymns before there were conventions and CDs and mp3s etc? Father Peter [/quote] Verbal only [coptic]o…
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No one... The move to draw Coptic nearer to modern Greek started in the 1850's and the earliest recordings of hymns were not until the 1900's when the damage had already been done. That novel dialect started to be taught in the newly established HIC…