Ekhrestos anesty,
Oops, I've lived in Egypt till I was 28 and got that muddled up. Oh my God, I don't think anyone can be more muddled up then... hehe. It is a past tense, and now I'm disappointed in myself for the first time Remenkimi didn't argue …
Ekhrestos anesty,
Dear Remenkimi, can I ask how do reach your conclusions comparing Coptic with English in both grammar and verb conjugation. I cannot get my head sound this, and I do believe that's a strange approach...
Oujai
Ekhrestos anesty,
Dear kmeka, your last paragraph is exactly the opposite of my point. Your deduction of "my" logic is nowhere near what I meant, but I'm glad because your reasoning proved what I wanted to say, so I hope you agree with me now...
Ouj…
Ekhrestos anesty,
In all honesty I think that the Coptic doesn't necessarily use the simple past tense, but the present perfect. It's only understood in the context of the sentence, and it shares the same form with the simple past tense anyway....
O…
EKhrestos anesty,
Yes imikhail, this is how I understood it from FR. Peter and mabsoota; risen in that sentence is treated rather like an adjective than a past participle.
DEar FR. Peter, I disagree with you. Raise is not the same as rise. The form…
Ekhrestos anesty
No imikhail, afdonf doesn't mean "he raised himself", unlike afdounos-f which so means. The latter as you rightly pointed out is the subject-verb-object form, while the former is not
Oujai
Ekhrestos anesty
No no no guys... hear me out on this, please... this is crucial not only important... you're mixing things up now...
Aftwnf doesn't mean "he raised himself". It has the connotation of the present perfect "has risen". Den is one of t…
No dear kmeka, I disagree. In major Lordly feasts you don't say the whole commemoration in tasbeha, and that's a rite in itself. I don't know the purpose though, but I guess it comes back to focussing more on the Lord than the paints...
Ekhrestos an…
Exactly what I thought. I would still love if you would please point me in the direction of reading some of the manuscripts or studies of hymnody origins and dates online...
Oujai
Dear Mina,
Are you sure tin anastasin is as old as the 19th century? I doubt it... I guess it's more recent than that actually.
Dear imikhail,
Is there a link to these manuscripts online? I'd be very interested to read about the changes to the coll…
Ekhrestos anesty,
Yes Unworthy1 that's exactly what I mean. The difference is that is risen implies no action taken by Christ Himself, a passive statement if you will, which is certainly not the case in the Christian faith.
Oujai
Ekhrestos anesty
No dear Unworthy1. My issue is with the usage of the indirect statement. I don't think that's proper, but would like to hear people's views.
Oujai
I actually haven't heard of this before. What? Are we really that confident he didn't! please don't start me on this one. Is there any problem that judas may have partaken of the Communion? Does the Body and Blood of Christ exonerate you from any wr…
YEs jydeacon, but in many things we treat ourselves as smarter than the previous ages. NOw yes I'm a big opponent to the infallibility of authority figures, but to be honest, the lack of meditation faculties and encouragement to use these is the rea…
My point is that we're not deleting, we're not changing, but we're only cutting it short for a short while. How does that interfere with our faith? don't we know It by heart? SO the forty nine days a week that we're doing that we're confusing others…
Good points from all of you of course, but just sad for me to think a man-made declaration is not in anyway touchable, but palms, gospels, and whatever else can be touched... and FR. Peter, we're not changing the creed... We're NOT. Why did the peop…
I completely understand FR. Peter, and it is not really my opinion after all. It's what I have observed. Reciting part or the whole of the Creed doesn't mean we're creating heresies, neither are we hindering people, or even considering it negotiable…
Dear FR. Peter,
I don't think anybody would be happy that agbeya prayers are missed out on some occasions either. Nor would anyone be happy to miss out saints' intercessions, but that does happen. If however a non-believer happens to enter the churc…
DEar imikhail,
I don't have any references, and I am not as well-learned or well-researched as many of the people here are, but I learn with observation. Sorry to say this but it seems to me that many practices are being scrapped because of controve…