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Ekhrestos anesty No imikhail, afdonf doesn't mean "he raised himself", unlike afdounos-f which so means. The latter as you rightly pointed out is the subject-verb-object form, while the former is not Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty No no no guys... hear me out on this, please... this is crucial not only important... you're mixing things up now... Aftwnf doesn't mean "he raised himself". It has the connotation of the present perfect "has risen". Den is one of t…
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Ekhrestos anesty Well said Mina... guys for the billionth time, separate services have their own rites even when they fall on whatever day... Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty Thanks Mina, very good point. Oujai
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No dear kmeka, I disagree. In major Lordly feasts you don't say the whole commemoration in tasbeha, and that's a rite in itself. I don't know the purpose though, but I guess it comes back to focussing more on the Lord than the paints... Ekhrestos an…
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Thanks imikhail, God bless your service and efforts and keep us in your prayers. Ekhrestos anesty Oujai
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Exactly what I thought. I would still love if you would please point me in the direction of reading some of the manuscripts or studies of hymnody origins and dates online... Oujai
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Dear Mina, Are you sure tin anastasin is as old as the 19th century? I doubt it... I guess it's more recent than that actually. Dear imikhail, Is there a link to these manuscripts online? I'd be very interested to read about the changes to the coll…
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VEry clear now FR. Peter, thanks very much Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty, Yes Unworthy1 that's exactly what I mean. The difference is that is risen implies no action taken by Christ Himself, a passive statement if you will, which is certainly not the case in the Christian faith. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty No dear Unworthy1. My issue is with the usage of the indirect statement. I don't think that's proper, but would like to hear people's views. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty I have a language question: is it not better to say Christ has risen rather than is OUjai
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BEkhrestos aftwnf... khan oumatmai aftwnf... Oujai
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And that's what I was pointing out FR. Peter. But today unfortunately things have either this or it's wrong. Really sad... Oujai
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I actually haven't heard of this before. What? Are we really that confident he didn't! please don't start me on this one. Is there any problem that judas may have partaken of the Communion? Does the Body and Blood of Christ exonerate you from any wr…
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YEs jydeacon, but in many things we treat ourselves as smarter than the previous ages. NOw yes I'm a big opponent to the infallibility of authority figures, but to be honest, the lack of meditation faculties and encouragement to use these is the rea…
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So all the years before 325, how did non-believers survive in our Coptic church? Oujai
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My point is that we're not deleting, we're not changing, but we're only cutting it short for a short while. How does that interfere with our faith? don't we know It by heart? SO the forty nine days a week that we're doing that we're confusing others…
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Good points from all of you of course, but just sad for me to think a man-made declaration is not in anyway touchable, but palms, gospels, and whatever else can be touched... and FR. Peter, we're not changing the creed... We're NOT. Why did the peop…
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I completely understand FR. Peter, and it is not really my opinion after all. It's what I have observed. Reciting part or the whole of the Creed doesn't mean we're creating heresies, neither are we hindering people, or even considering it negotiable…
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Ok, for me all parts of the faith are equal. I give up anyway... Oujai
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Dear FR. Peter, I don't think anybody would be happy that agbeya prayers are missed out on some occasions either. Nor would anyone be happy to miss out saints' intercessions, but that does happen. If however a non-believer happens to enter the churc…
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DEar imikhail, I don't have any references, and I am not as well-learned or well-researched as many of the people here are, but I learn with observation. Sorry to say this but it seems to me that many practices are being scrapped because of controve…
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Very true but why did the Holy synod wake up all of a sudden after 1500 years to correct a wrong practice. Oujai
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They should understand that we're focussing on a specific occasion. You can apply the same argument to everything including agios if a non-believer hears it in specific occasions. Funny how the controversial things seem to only do with things that p…
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How is modifying the creed messing with it? The saying applies in everything we're doing right now: "7afzeen mesh fahmeen" (= knowing without understanding). It's an emphasis on an event. Nothing to imply importance or superiority. I see it as every…
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Creed or hymns are parts of our faith, and they convey messages of what we learnt one way or another. Those things are modified and not deleted or skipped. Otherwise let's bring back the litany of peace! Let's not change agios at all then word-wise.…
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In Egypt the practice has always been akin to the olden days. I believe that's the right thing as well... don't believe in the change... Oujai
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To read Pauline "for the resurrection of the dead", and psalm "blessed is the one You chose into Your place" in annual tune is beyond me. That's like reading the annunciation readings in annual. We even don't include them in the Lenten katamaros... …
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Mina, your or abouna's statement on holy Thursday is not precise. The rite is semi-festive semi-annual during the Liturgy only. Laqqan is an absolute annual. Paschal prayers before and after are mournful. In fact we say the longest hymn, or at least…