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WEll I cleared the cache, I deleted the cookies and the problem is still the same.. any other ideas? OUjai
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That's a great idea.. thanks servant33 Oujai
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Very strange I don't see ex-pope's icon when I log in on the computer, but I do when I do from the mobile..! Oujai
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DEar morcousw, There is no special tune for Kyrialayson after the litany of peace in proper Coptic liturgy.. it may have been an Arabic intention that transferred to English, and probably other languages too.. Oujai
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That's right Timothym.. that's because there's no 'p' in Coptic, and the Greek 't' is usually pronounced as /d/ in Coptic Oujai
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Sad it is ilovesaintmark... May the Lord have mercy on me a sinner... Oujai qen `P[C
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WEll if laziness is the order of the day, should we practise it in church too? Woe to me being lazy for GOd's commandments, may He not act with me in kind OUJAi
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Without being anywhere near historically sound, I'd venture to say only a matter of personal preference, no more, no less.. it's sad, but true.. many people do just as they please, and for lack of stringence, others follow the wrong practice as thou…
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I'm so happy I'm reading such an argument coming from Fr. Peter.. Yes JG.. the practice has always been for the st. Gregory liturgy the three major feasts and holy fifties too probably.. as for st. Cyril, probably whole Lent and Jonah's fast... Oujai
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It was Lazarus Saturday mabsoota... feast of annunciation doesn't trump other rites from the end of Lent Friday till the day after Pentecost Oujai
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Why do I feel that caji has hacked my account? HEhe Just got the shocking news of our priest last night, as he reviewed the original rites.. it will be Lazarus rites and not the annunciation celebration then as everyone else kept saying Oujai
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I guess to me it's sad that the rites had to be changed in the first place.. Oujai
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JG, I wasn't aware of Mr. Albair's addendum, and the reference was my understanding of the new rule plus dialogues with people on tasbeha.org... Oujai
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JG, The change is absolute, the change involves the churches which have more than one liturgy, or where the congregation is so large that deacons start praying the general funeral prayers during Communion.. however in our churches in the UK, there i…
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Thanks imikhail.. that makes sense now Oujai
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Raising of incense: Kyrialayson or verses of cymbals? After nefsendi, dishoria or ento da? Oujai
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Thanks Mina. I am looking for full details actually... Oujai qen `P[C
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Dear imikhail, In your last point, does that mean "the liturgy including the readings of the feast of the Cross"? If so, what are the rites for matins service? Oujai qen `P[C
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That would be greatly appreciated imikhail please.. it's sad though that we are ignorant of those rites of old, and people keep chopping and changing as they please, and give us bogus rules.. I'm sorry to say this but I'm just appalled by the many t…
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That's right Mina... I don't what it is in the kholagy, but that's how it should be... the kholagy may have spelling mistakes after all.. DEAR Copticandproud, nyet (sorry, editing from the mobile) means "who have" or any other tense, for the plural.…
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By the way, Remenkimi, you may want to read my previous posts to find an answer to your second and third questions Oujai
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DEar Remenkimi, I really don't know.. I wasn't the one who put that right in the first place.. my understanding is that Lent used to finish on Friday, so probably the feast of resurrection was celebrated on that very day rather than feast of annunci…
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Ok, I wasn't aware of that of course imikhail, but let me simply ask: if the feast of the Cross falls on a Sunday during LEnt, why don't we use the same argument? In fact if, like a couple of years ago, it falls on one of Jonah's fast days, it trump…
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I guess it should be nyet rather than niet, but I am at work and cannot view Coptic fonts now in the previous posts... Oujai qen `P[C
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And another argument too: people go to some extremes and change the rites of the General Funeral falling right after Palm Sunday, but Lazarus Saturday stays without change?!!! Seriously?!!! Oujai qen `P[C
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No... Lazarus Saturday is technically not the beginning of the Holy Week. It is just an annual day bridging the gap between the end of Lent, and Palm Sunday. The feast trumps the rites of the Lazarus Saturday. It may not be the case if the feast fal…
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IS that right? I really doubt that.. feast of annunciation is a Lordly feast while Lazarus Saturday isn't.. it isn't about what we celebrate yearly and what not... I'd like another source besides those quoted above Oujai
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Mina, I didn't expect that from you. Adam and watos refer to both the wording and the tune. You cannot make that simple mistake man. Gospel response is by definition watos. That is why it follows either doxologies or Aspasmos watos. Acts response on…
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Mina, Bewik, or be'eish is a verse in the Adam taodokeya.. it's Adam.. annual communion hymn for Sundays, not even fridays, but ... or saturdays as in Lazarus Saturday.. As for the shara's, or shere's verses, and owneyatk, are watos as you rightly s…
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Mina, Bewik (or be'eish) is Adam, not watos... it's the same tune as the the last two verses of the Sunday Adam taodokeya... No we don't use verses of the verses of cymbals as Gospel responses.. give me one example please Dear aem581, I think we dis…