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Mina, Winding me up you are, aren't you? Ok, taken as a joke.. hehe.. I'm kidding too Oujai
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Ouekhrestiana (spelt with a hada in the end) it is Oujai khan ebshois
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Here are some interesting links: (1) http://copticsounds.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/the-modern-pronunciation-of-coptic-in-the-mass.pdf - affected to some extent by the Moftahian new teaching, but interesting with regards Sa'idic. (2) http://coptics…
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DEar imikhail, You forgot the sha'anini tune, didn't you? Dear SWMSANMG, Thanks for clarifying the sources not to say atranhos at the end.. I'll definitely take up this in my practice (if allowed to.. hehe) from now on.. however, additions and modi…
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Well said morcousw.. the rites are there are no cymbals, so how is it fitting to sing the verses of cymbals? Dear Mina, I think the proper teaching is no madayeh at all, whether raising of incense, or end of liturgy.. OUJAI
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Dear SWMSANMG, In some people's arrogant attitude, there is no time to learn appropriate hymns, because we know it all.. the examples, or rather the questions you gave, ought to be exceptions but if they were the norm, and no one takes a proper stan…
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Very well said Mina... Oujai
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And also this; Other: Apostolic Exarchate in France, Benelux and Switzerland for the Ukrainians Oujai
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=12897.msg152271#msg152271 date=1329772318] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12897.msg152256#msg152256 date=1329740554] What I mean is, it bothers me that we have a Coptic Orthodox Church, an Ethiopian Orthodox, a Sy…
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Great post Thutmose.. the dilemma is that studies say different things unfortunately due to each person's preferences for references.. I will provide a couple of old and well-trusted researches that appear to be rather "un"mutilated by Erian effendi…
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OK sir, as you wish... Oujai qen `P[C
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Andrew and Fr. Peter, Andrew's initial question that Mina replied to wasn't only about language.. I guess Mina therefore didn't mean to address that point per se Oujai
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Agreed imikhail.. maybe sometimes Babnoudi too Oujai
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Dear lankyknight1990, Thank you very much.. I'm impressed.. you sound so much like dzheremi... God bless you and pray for us too Oujai
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I'm afraid those aren't strictly correct teachings.. sorry, but is it proper of me to say this about your long life education? Well, I just said it... Oujai
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Well Joshua, some people argue, albeit not sure about Zoxsasi, that the world has 200 languages, 195 too many.. Oujai
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DEAr Zoxsasi, I was never against integration by any means.. I think Indians in the UK struck the right balance.. but we as Egyptians? WE'll only keep debating this forever and a day OUjai
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That is a good point. I think for the Coptic church, specifically speaking, Egyptians will keep going abroad all the time, and will need to feel at home in their church in the West. Only my personal opinion though... Oujai qen `P[C
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OK. This is where I believe our church should have a dual role; not only missionary, but also serving the "original" community. Oujai qen `P[C
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12394.msg151805#msg151805 date=1329158486] [quote author=ophadece link=topic=12394.msg151751#msg151751 date=1329035944] Dear Remenkimi, First of all, I struggle to see where the ayin fits in Greco-Bohairic.. secondl…
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12897.msg151874#msg151874 date=1329224064] ophadece, the point you miss is that most of the English people who used to worship with the Russians have now left because the use of Church Slavonic excludes them (an…
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Dear Zoxsasi, You said: "The Russian Orthodox Church prays in Russian during its services (whether in Russia or outside of Russia) The Greek Orthodox Church prays in Greek during its services (whether in Greece or outside of Greece) The Romanian Ort…
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Dear Andrew, Why the need then to stick to the label "the Coptic Orthodox Church"? Oujai
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What? Do you mabsoota get in touch with him? WELl you have to tell hio that he must be back at least to give some support to my arguments.. please.. thanks OUJAI
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Dear Remenkimi, First of all, I struggle to see where the ayin fits in Greco-Bohairic.. secondly, don't understand your statement of old Bohairic being much different to Sa'idic and GB. Not exactly sure to be honest Oujai
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Dear lankynight, Thanks dearly.. you hit the nail on the head, as did Remenkimi before, and Mina today... yes it is laziness. Not only on the part of the young, but unfortunately the clergy and the congregation too.. in a COPTIC church.. I don't thi…
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Thanks Mina, TITL, and of course dzheremi. The question Andrew is: is the problem in the language or the people? Oujai
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Old Bohairic wasn't invented.. I urge you to read with an open mind ready to appraise and not take things for granted OUjai
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Dear Copticandproud and all, The link that Fr. Peter provided agrees with the teaching I learnt, which I quoted earlier. St. Cyril commentates on Jonah's journey saying "The prophet is sent, and, endowed with irresistible enthusiasm, he sets about h…
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I didn't listen to the sermon... that was what I was taught anyway Oujai qen `P[C