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Mina, I don't want anything to be standard. I'm here to learn, and when I'm certain of something I say it, when I am not I don't. Again Arabic or English melodies and Christian songs aren't Adam or watos. They don't have any criteria to follow, but…
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Dear Mina, can't remember the source that says beweik is arranged for Sunday's only.. imikhail may shed some light if he still follows this forum. Don't confuse yourself, there are no Arabic melodies that can be described as Adam or watos. dear amou…
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There was a debate before about what should be said during Communion on days other Sunday's but nothing concrete was reached. As drewHalim says all Gospel responses, doxologies, and other long hymns, e.g. kata nikhoros, bebnewma are watos, while ve…
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Thanks Amoussa01 and drewHalim, there are watos tunes and Adam tunes regardless, or perhaps I should say in addition to, the tunes set for specific days of the week. Basically any tune should either be watos or Adam unless it's not separated into qu…
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Dear toitoi, if you mean Lazarus hymn during Communion, then you should know it has only one tune. It's a watos hymn and so it's said as cantor Wagdy recorded it on this site. Those who say it in Adam beweik tune are simply mistaken including Ibrahi…
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do we still stay nefcenti and al ei e i eqoun ? oujai qen P[C
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Dear caji, Tawadros has nothing to do with Arabic language oujai
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Dear remenkimi, Tawadros isn't an Arabic name, nor an Arabic pronunciation.. oujai
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No faithful servant 1, I don't have references, only what I learnt over the years.. oujai
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Dear Michael Botros, I don't think the practice of reciting prayers inaudibly is contrary to what used to happen.. indeed, it's becoming the norm when it ought not to be, that priests recite all prayers, or most, audibly.. this is not right.. in the…
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Some priests would accept confession over the phone, but not as norm, add others may give longer leeway to see you every time, so you may try.. there's no point sticking to abouna who you don't think you're benefiting from spiritually.. oujai
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Thanks for replying dear RamezM.. no elaboration needed except to say your history quotes appear to me to be contradictory to Fr. Peter's.. that's all.. a bit of a joke, no more oujai
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I'm starting to realise why RamezM didn't usually comment on posts by Fr. Peter! Oujai
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Thanks dear pharoh123.. Good enough sources for me Oujai
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Dear pharoh123, Would you please provide me with sources? Oujai qen `P[C
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Sorry Copticandproud, I realised the dictionary is over 90MB in size. There is the direct link. There is an icon on the bottom left that says "download". The link is: http://www.calloflove.net/copticlibrary/coptic/copticarabicdic/1.htm Oujai qen `P…
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I have an English Coptic dictionary but truthfully it's not reliable.. don't know how fluent in Arabic you are, but I have a more trustworthy Coptic Arabic one, perhaps on the level of higher level of studying Coptic, but the Arabic isn't easy.. let…
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Thanks a million Archdeacon .. Makes perfect sense now Oujai
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Go out then: The paths of the waters (= the waterways): and those who have (?) for water: are invited inside the wedding aiernovi, This is a very weak passage. I don't know where I got it from, but it doesn't make sense. The beginning of the second…
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What makes them different are church rituals and practices.. first two weeks of nativity fast are similar tune-wise to annual days, yet food changes.. same thing with baramoun days.. bottom line tunes are for specific purposes not related to fast or…
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Ah so sorry ya Mina.. I misunderstood.. thanks for clarifying oujai
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Sorry Mina, typing from the mobile makes it so hard for me to elaborate on what I would like to express. What I was basically talking about is the comment you made about having baralex hymns divided into choruses, with one chorus singing one verse …
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Mina, great words but I don't agree that you necessarily divide such hymns between choruses.. please remember that liturgy hymns don't follow the same criteria as tasbeha.. there are hymns where it's specified that alternation exists for them, like …
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Dear Copticandproud, are you aware that in the psalmody book there are seven Kiahk doxologies? Can deacons not sing them in longer tunes (i.e. mohayer)? secondly, it's a joke to have a refrain that is different in different languages.. a prime examp…
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Why can't we use liturgy hymns during Communion? That was certainly one of the more established practices previously. In Kiahk it would still be fitting to lengthen the Gospel responses. No one sings Pa[oic during the Liturgy proper, why don't we si…
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No Remenkimi, Agape, InChrist7. There is no excuse for relating a quote of one prophet to another. Symphony of prophecies simply means the unique, and oneness of their prophecies in funnelling down to the story of salvation. St. Mark may quote the b…
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Dear InChrist7, I appreciate you said you wouldn't carry on in this discussion. I do hope you read my few lines here. First of all I should say you raise very valid and important points. I agree with all of them, except how you apply them to Kiahk m…
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Two alephs are for Amen Alleluja. It happens that the two Arabic words and the two English ones start with one respective letter. Oujai qen `P[C
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Still makes sense to translate this into two A's.. Thanks mina I didn't know that before Oujai
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I'd like to join in on that project too when it materialises, talking about google document. I have very good command of Arabic and I can point out and change many mistakes in a number of hymns.. Oujai