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@minatasgeel, I completely understand what you're saying of course. However how does that apply to Bebnewma that @minasafwat was explaining? I didn't understand what he meant by this.. Oujai
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@minasafwat Now you're not making sense. What do you mean by hazzat and tarkeeb? How should these be differentiated from each other? Also on this site the recording by HICS is different than Ibrahim in hazzat in the third stanza. How can you say the…
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@minasafwat, Thanks man, great info.. Oujai
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@lfahmy, Sorry I forgot the comment I made. No cantor is to be taken as a Bible and cantor Mikhail is of course the sole source. But I listened to a couple of hymns in his voice and tunes were rather aberrant. Ok, how do I know they are aberrant? Be…
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@lfahmy, I never referred to any sources beyond cantor Mikhail. Why did you get that impression? Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @minatasgeel, I sense that I've annoyed you greatly. I'm sorry. If you're annoyed take a break from my posts. I'm not playing with words for the sake of the argument. I'm more in the position of @minasoliman.. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @minatasgeel, I disagree completely. I believe there's one proper way, first because there was a single source, second because the principle is unison in the church, and third because we're orthodox and that means strict and narrow-…
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Ekhrestos anesty, @minatasgeel, Of course what aiernovi translated a part of the psalm so that's not what was taken out, or was it? Secondly is the redemption a continuous process or one of the past that ended? I believe it's the former. If someone …
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Ekhrestos anesty @minatasgeel, Why do you think reviewing it from other sources is important? I'm just asking a general question, as I do like cantor Gad too and trust him in a lot of cases, but there could be exceptions. I guess what I'm trying to …
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Ekhrestos anesty @aiernovi and all, What's the problem of us interceding for those who died? I can't understand point number 3.. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @minasafwat, I can't remember now, it's a difficult exercise for me to get those cantor Gad says less correctly and may be I will let you know when I come across some examples. Anyway you don't need to figure out my view. Why should…
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Ekhrestos anesty,@minasafwat,Thank you very much man for answering my question that thoroughly and educated me a lot. I will need you loads. However, please stop saying we should not judge, or we should say who is correct and who is not. You sound l…
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Ekhrestos anesty @drewhalim Again interesting points and I hope we really find logical answers as you say.. as for fasting between ascension and Pentecost this is an innovation for lack of a better word. Totally incorrect in my opinion. Does the sam…
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Ekhrestos anesty@minatasgeelIt all depends on the way you perform the hymn. You can make it sound "just a little" sadder than in another "a little more" joyful occasion. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty,To add to what @minatasgeel has said; omonoganais is said in sad tune, and in enthronement of bishops and popes too. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty,@drewhalim,I guess, without an authoritative answer given, that it follows the fact that you start the rites of one ceremonial at the end of another. So aswman in that sense is starting at the ending of the holy fifties, pretty much…
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Ekhrestos anesty@minatasgeelI really don't know... one of the grey areas if you like. Personally, I don't think it should be sung, but I may be very wrong...Oujai
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@minatasgeel,I guess Anba Mattaos is not totally right here. In fact, it is a practice spread in many (if not all) churches, aswman being sung on the feast day itself. I guess pretty much like aswman starting on the Pentecost feast, Lenten psalm 150…
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Ekhrestos anesty @alamalaweshak, That's the right practice. Aswmen shouldn't be said on the day of the feast of the apostles going back to the regular annual rites wholly Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @RamezM, How do I download it? Using an android mobile is the problem or what? Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @minatasgeel, Thanks for your reply. I did think they could be said in midnight praises too but I guess I am mistaken.. Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @minatasgeel, So you agree with me and not @drewhalim, right? Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty @drewhalim, That's interesting because I learnt that digaleleya is treated the same way like aradantondi during midnight chants as well as next to last parts of Thursday and Friday! Oujai
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Ekhrestos anesty, @RamezM, I completely agree with you. And that's how the meaning of the rites are gradually lost and ignored and other inventions are built upon similar principles. Starting to make exceptions so for people who don't know they'll t…
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Ekhrestos anesty @lfahmy, If I'm being a strict rites follower, I wouldn't sing it during midnight chants except in Kiahk and Lent. Pretty much the case with danan. It's not that it's nice so we can say it annually but I'm aware of the modern teachi…
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Ekhrestos anesty @drewhalim, Thank you, I'll do that, but I have an inkling you may know me by face already. I used to live in London between 2006 and 7, and came to st. Mark a few times, at times messing up your hymns by my gruff untidy voice and t…
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Ekhrestos anesty@drewhalim,That's exactly what I am totally against. There must be clear "official" teachings but unfortunately cantors sometimes use their position to volunteer opinions which they take as right, and then we come to have various tea…
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Ekhrestos anesty,@drewhalim,Of course I can see your point, but to answer the first paragraph I would say who are we mere humans who disregard the commandment of the Lord? He said who honours them honours Me. So we have to celebrate saints' feasts d…
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Ekhrestos anesty Dear @drewhalim and @lfahmy, Very interesting points you share here. However, I completely disagree with what Mr. Reda Barsoomaalludes to. How can one add verses to hymns when the readings don't refer to such an event. In regards to…
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Ekhrestos anesty, @lfahmy, I don't think you need to mix anything. The rites of the holy fifties trump minor feasts and indeed any other occasions.. Oujai