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@mabsoota, I have promised.. I won't forget I'll do my homework and let you know when I have done it.. Oujai
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A sigh of relief.. Oujai
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@minasoliman, Yes I believe we're basically saying the same thing from the start but different terminology.. Oujai
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Hader I will ;)
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I have no qualms at all about such statements you make and indeed I learn from them.. as long as you keep saying Jewish practices and not call it a Jewish liturgy that the apostles prayed. After being with Christ all became Christian as a continuati…
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@Remenkimi, Very well said.. thanks a lot Oujai
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@minasoliman, So again you're referring to the Jewish rites being a Jewish liturgy. Well no the apostles may have stuck to those rites as commanded by Christ and then other rites developed as you allude to. So if Christ instructs the apostles to do …
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@mabsoota, 10 years and I have a British passport but I am rubbish in history. I'll read up about the patron saints I promise.. Oujai
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I also forgot to add that English is a foreign language to me. It's a hindrance for me to get closer to Christ since I live in the UK and everything around me is in English? I don't speak English at home either.. Oh sorry guys I just realised I'm on…
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@minasoliman, Jewishness of or in every liturgy is not the same as the apostles practising Jewish liturgies. Sorry I'm very meticulous with words.. Dear all, Like @minatasgeel I am in agreement and supportive of what @Remenkimi argues. It's sad that…
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@Remenkimi, What happens in some contemporary protestant churches is not glossolalia. Secondly I am sure you have ample resources of fathers who interpret St Paul the correct way. Thirdly thanks for correcting your position on St Mark. Jewish as wel…
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Oh.. very very interesting question. @mabsoota should tell us more. I believe she may have some knowledge of that. Waiting ..................... Oujai
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@Remenkimi, No St Paul wasn't discussing reaching out to everyone in their own language for them to understand. Please refrain from interpreting biblical passages your own way. This is not clever at all. Another thing, to claim that saying ta ma he …
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@qawe, @Coptic_deacon gave the whole answer in a concise way. And yes we should present the Offertory from the west during EVERY liturgy. We still Do the procession on covenant Thursday without celebrating. Most probably the it was organised this wa…
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Who are those saints @mabsoota? The patrons of the two countries?
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Oh yes of course. But as it changed I believe we are not practising the correct rites after the change either.. Thanks @avvakaras Oujai
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@Remenkimi,I agree with most of what you said; one thing I have an issue with however (although I have a feeling you unintentionally used it in a reverse way to prove your point, as I am certain you know this better than I do) in speaking about tong…
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@qawe,I was talking in general about the rituals, and not specifically about any Sunday service...Oujai
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No I live in Newcastle not in Scotland. I don't have the right to vote, but I still hope it won't be a "yes" vote. let's see Oujai
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@Coptic_deacon, As you can see I resisted replying to you to allow other members to join in but it seems it's Of no interest to anybody.. come on guys, where are you? Of course I can't claim to understand the aspects of what you have mentioned but …
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@Coptic_deacon, You are very fluent in authentic Coptic I can see.. thanks mate.. To all, I believe regardless of the presence of a bishop the correct rites is for the Offertory to be presented with ebowro always that is from the west side of the ch…
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@Zoxsasi, That's exactly what I am saying. I appreciate you joined this thread quite late but you may read previous posts and see for yourself. The pharaohs had spoken the Coptic language. Hieroglyphics is only a system of writing. What is anti-isla…
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@MrPete33, Indeed when the apostles preached the Gospel everywhere they took into account their cultural beliefs and practices. They spread the Gospel in the language of the people. This is the whole point of this thread, how much is the church a mi…
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@Zoxsasi, Arabic is not the official language of the church. It's called the Coptic church for a reason not the Arabic orthodox church. Indeed the songs you refer to are exactly why I have a problem. They are mere songs, I'm talking about Kol el sef…
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@qawe, Of course I Do partially agree with some comments but not wholly. My issue was not with the original post but the ramifications and deductions others took the discussion away to. @antonypaul, This is the second time father that you explain yo…
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@antonypaul, As a Coptic servant I expect myself to attract people to Coptic through both English and Arabic, however difficult that is. Otherwise let's do what's easy, and stop attaching ourselves to the Coptic church. At the end of the day what's …
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@meenaHanna, I think you're not correct in your interpretation of St. Paul. I believe in what my forefathers say, I'm proud of the faith of the saints of my church and those who my church acknowledges from any nationality. I will learn Coptic for th…
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@metouro, I hope you are not addressing me as I have or will never oppose abandonment of Arabic altogether not merely to lessen it.. Oujai
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@qawe, You hit the nail on the head. If any church should choose to abandon Coptic then she should cease to be Coptic and be called something else. There are British orthodox churches, French orthodox churches, and others under the auspices of the s…
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I think I have to admit that Coptic is not but a mere burden. It should Of course be abandoned by the Coptic church. Coptic is detrimental to the salvation of people's souls. Oujai