Weekday Kiahk Tasbeha Order

Hello all,
Happy Kiahk to everyone! I know on Sundays in Kiahk all 7 theotokias were said, and the order I gathered from old Kiahk psalmodies is Monday/Tuesday after the 1st hoos, Wednesday/Thursday after the 2nd, Friday/Saturday after the 3rd, and Sunday in its normal place. Is this correct?
If it is, what is done during the weekdays?

Thanks for your help❤️

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  • Hi @Daniel_Kyrillos,
    What you are saying does ring a bell with me if I remember correctly but I am not entirely sure - that said I guess the order of the other days would always be the next day taodokeya followed by the next to next day after the first canticle and so on and so forth. That said I am starting to get the feeling that Kiahk tunes were once only used on Sundays, judging by the katamaros of daily readings that doesn't change during weekdays, unlike the feast of the Cross for example.. I would hope you and others with more knowledge enlighten me further..
    Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ ⲡϭⲥ
  • edited December 12

    The key is to think in terms of the basic structure of the annual Tasbeha, and then look at the additional hymns said on Sundays during Kiahk.

    For example, “Agios O Theos” is an Adam hymn that is said on/for the Kiahk Hoos. Therefore, whenever you say the Kiahk Hoos, you can also say that hymn. The same principle applies to the other parts.

    Another well-known example is “The Burning Bush.” This is a hymn associated with the Thursday Theotokia, so it can be said whenever the Thursday Theotokia is said.

    Some important points to keep in mind
    A general order

    (Here, the “subject” refers to the main section, such as any of the Hooses):


    • A Psali comes before the subject.


    • A hymn or a Theotokia comes after the subject.


    • A commentary/exposition (Lobsh) comes at the end of everything related to the subject.


    • An additional “Theotokia” (not the main one from the annual Tasbeha) is said in the tune of the Theotokia and follows it. These are mainly associated with the Watos Theotokia.


    • A Psali (or hymns set after the Coptic Psalies—these are essentially “Arabic Psalies”) follows the tune of the Psali:


      • If Adam, they follow the Agios O Theos tune.


      • If Watos, they follow the Burning Bush tune.




    • Tentheo


    • Kiahk Hoos and its hymns/commentaries


    • First Hoos and its hymns/commentaries


    • Parts 7–9 of the Sunday Theotokia, and all of their hymns


    • Second Hoos and its hymns/commentaries


    • Third Hoos and its hymns/commentaries


    • Commentary Doxologies and their hymns/commentaries


    • Fourth Hoos and its hymns/commentaries


    • The Theotokia of the day and its hymns/commentaries/Lobshes


    • The Adam or Watos conclusion (depending on the Theotokia), along with its hymns


    • The regular conclusion of the annual Tasbeha


    That being said, you do not have to say everything. Ideally, you would say one Psali and/or one hymn for each section. If time is limited, you may skip accordingly.

    However—please, please, please—do not skip the main parts and say only their hymns or Psalies. Doing so defeats the purpose of the structure.

  • thanks for all the detail, mina tasgeel.
    do you have a link for the kiahk hoos?
    i couldn't find a link for it 
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