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Also, if we aren't allowed food or drink in the church then how come we have a drink of water after taking the Blood in Holy Communion? If it's simply about washing down the Communion, why don't we just bring our favorite drink to church and drink t…
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I wish sermons are mjxed with Orthodox treasures
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With solo responses it won't matter. But with congregational hymns, unity is above all things.
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Follow the HICS.
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Dear Ekrom, This is a long history and I rather not overwhelm you by it. So, I will be brief and I can point you to different sources to learn more if you are interested. Basically, during the 1850's there was a movement in the Church headed by HH…
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Kiro, The book is advertised on the website for a reason. It has copyrights and we as Christians must respect that. It would be ironic to use a stolen copy to do God's work.
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It is in the Made7 (Distribution Melodies) book published by the SUS diocese. You can get it at http://suscopts.org/diocese/bookstore/ Thanks.
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lol, Seriously, if any of you have a chance to read Fr. Shenouda Maher's thesis, do it. It is very interesting and has scientific evidence that go back to the hieroglyphic inscriptions in support of the way Coptic used to sound before Aryain's inte…
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I personally prefer that it adopted the Greek sounds rather than the Arabic sounds. I am not sure I follow the argument here. Arian Moftah in 1857 adopted the Greek sounds on false premise. This was the turning point of losing the heritage.
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TTL, I am curious as to the reason why not. Thanks.
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he Coptic ORTHODOX Church, the Church of Alexandria, is the Church of God who doesn't limit faith and belief in Him and salvation to a language or an ethnicity. For us to change that and limit......we are changing the Church that Jesus established..…
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The Coptic Church lost the Coptic language when it adopted the Greek sounds of the alphabet.
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You can chant Bi mayromi in the days tune like the doxologies.
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I suggest to have a liturgy aside from the original one, may be on a Saturday, where it is done all in Coptic or Coptic/English.
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"Does the fact that Egyptians constitute the most populous of the Arabic speaking dictate their imposition of rules on pronunciation?" Of course not. In Egypt, there is a difference between spoken Arabic and formal Arabic where the letters are said…
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miatasgeel Even thoo that goes pronunciation of theta to be "thita" is against the proposed OB dialect?! I am not sure what you are trying to say? Copts do not know how to pronounce the "th" as in thin. OB does not have "th". So, it is irrelevent…
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Minatasgeel, There is no way the Copts would pronounce Greek as the Greeks. Why? There is a a simple rule in languages. The language that is borrowed would be pronounced as the language it is replacing. I will give you some examples: Arabic when i…
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The greeks pronounce pnevma pnooma and pavlos pawlos
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Minatasgeel, I am sorry I used a bad example. but how about khoros, should it be shoros? khristos, shristos instead? khoron, shoron (island)? My other question is: if GB is really true in its sounds why the variation of saying the same word or …
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Another question for minatasgeel, Did we just discover the word ebshoyce to be really epchoyce. So, all of those who recorded it ebshoyce are wrong and the arabic trasiliterations are wrong too for they wroted with the "t". Amazing!!!!
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Minatasgeel, should we say "pros eveshsaste" since this is also a Greek word and uses the same letter?
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He used to say ebshoyce now he says epechoice, evki to evshi This has nothing to do with tarkeeb. Besides is it evshi or evki, ebshoyce or epechoyce or epchoyce? I am just bringing up the different ways of how the different cantors and the HICS say…
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Ya minatasheel I am not saying Ibrahim Ayad did the change or not. That is not the point. The point is that he changed the way he used to say it and all the new recordings changed it. Compare Ayad's old recordings of '82 and before with his new ones
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ilovesaintmark you probably fall under a the baptized category.
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Coptic means different things depending on the context it is used in. Coptic refers to the last stage of the Egyptian language. It refers to the Church of Alexandria It refers to an Egyptian It refers to a member baptized in the Coptic Church I…
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This shows the instability of GB. Anyone can put his own signature on the words as he likes. As an example, I was taught to say Hiteni evki and it is recorded thus in the HCIC recordings. Then came Ibrahim Ayad and changed it to evshi. Another, I …
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There is no doubt that the Coptic Church in the Diaspora is an ethnic Church. For centuries, the Egyptians have been persecuted and not allowed to share their faith. And so when the church expanded East and West, it remained closed to outsiders beca…
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What is willful ignorance. There are several passages in the NT showing that the Jewish leadership handed over Jesus for fear of their status.
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A Christian is a Christian if the faith upon which one is Christian is the same. For example, Protestants' baptism like those of the Lutherans and the Baptists is not acceptable because the faith upon which the baptism is performed is not the same a…
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Once the Christology issue got resolved, things started to ease. So, the Catholic baptism was accepted if it was by immersion.