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I agree with liftupmyheart
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Pretty much. There are around 330 authentic hymns in the Coptic Church that date back to the 12th century. The bulk of the recent hymns were added in the mid 1800's as part of the Melekite-Copts unification. These include the resurrection hymns, a…
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We do not know how the hymns were developed (very few info is available) but we have information on the rites of the hymns and the changes that took place within the last 900 years.
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Thanks Minatasgeel Our Church is almost 2000 years old so 100 or 200 years is recent in comparison :D In fact in Coptic hymnology, the vereses of cymbals are considered recent for they were not know before late 1700's !!!!
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There is no harm in reading the synexarium .. you read it but you do not say "the Church celebrates ....." for the celebration is focused on the resurrection.
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So minatasgeel how old is Tin anastasin? I certainly have not found it in the manuscripts.
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Tin anastasin is one of the new hymns added recently.
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I am not refuting St John Chrysostom's sainthood. I refute the idea that St Tawfilos was mistaken by condemning him. He did accept the Tall brothers who were excommunicated by Tawfilos and accepting them in Constantinople was not appropriate. St. …
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Spiritual adultery is very clear in the Coptic Church and I thought earlier posts in this thread clarified it. It is when a Coptic Orthodox leaves the faith to be come a Muslim or any other religion that is not Christian (usually we are dealing wit…
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I do not agree that St Tawfilos went too far. How did he? The reason I press this issue is that modern historians from the Coptic Church picture St Tawfilos as if he did something wrong. They picture him as if he singlehandedly excommunicated Chry…
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The teaching in the Coptic Church is very clear regarding divorce. No divorce except for adultery whether it is spiritual as is the case when someone leaves the faith or physical through adding a partner to the marriage. In recent times, the last 2…
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Our Lord Himself said that there is no divorce except for adultery. Who are we to change what He says because of what we perceive as social injustice. There are other arrangements that could be made, when there is abuse, like counseling, psycho the…
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"Synodical decisions aren't well documented or publicised" It should, otherwise things like the canonization of Augustine does call for confusion. For what is taught is something and what may be rumors from the synod would be something different. …
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St Tawfilos excommunicated St Chrysostom because he went against the canons of the Church by accepting excommunicated monks. The history tells us that both St Tawfilos and St Cyril did not forgive St John.
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It would be easier for the Church to forgive Origen than to forgive Augustine. I would like to see the synod's text absolving Augustine.
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Leaving the faith is considered an adultery as described in the Bible
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minatasgeel, I am not sure I understand your question.
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Who said that St Tawfilos's decision was a mistake? Not according to the Coptic Church.
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Canonized where? In the Coptic Church? No, I am afraid this is not true. He has at least 17 points that are heretical to the Orthodox faith.
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Again no divorce except for adultery.
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This is a very good question. I am afraid the answer may cause lot of stir. May be it is just better to keep the peace. If you like I can pm you.
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As I mentioned the rite of the funerals on Sundays are annual .. this is mentioned in the deacon's books as well as the other ritual books. The original rite of the General Funeral was after 5:00 and was annexed to the ninth hour of Sunday (paschal…
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If it is really a divorce, then yes.
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In the Coptic Church there is no divorces unless there is an adultery. Period.
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After some research I have to retract what I said earlier in this thread. The general funeral tune should be in the annual one as it is practice in the Church nowadays. Any funeral prayed on Sunday before 5:00 pm is prayed in the annual tune, so s…
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This is a VERY good question that I am asking myself. It is above my pay grade to answer :D This trend is a very modern one.
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St Augustine is popular due to his writings on repentance which was pushed fervently by Pope Shenouda. However, on an academic level, St Augustine is not received in the Coptic Church officially, he is not in the Congregation of saints, he is mentio…