Do you think the Syrians are going to get rid of their Omonogenis and Tou dipno because the Byzantines persecuted them?
First, I am not a Syrian so I cannot speak of the Syrians.
Second, what evidence do you have that omojanees is a Byzantene hymn…
Third, find any reference to any Byzantine or Coptic musicologist, historian or scholar that says we adopted Byzantine music from them.
I do not need to find anyone with such background. All you need to do is listen to the Coptic hymns and the mode…
Second by your definition, we should not use Arabic because the Arabs persecuted the Copts much more than Byzantium did.
I am not sure who persecuted the Copts the most. I personally believe the Byzantines did more harm to the Copts than Arabs.
In…
In fact, the only way a language becomes standard is politics, not linguistic authenticity, validity, or superiority.
I disagree.
Religion is a major factor in language evolution. Take Arabic as an example.
Non-standard Greek hymns, as any social linguist will tell you, is only a linguistic variety.
Can you please name one that talked about this and where can I find that work?
A variety is not more authentic than the standard.
I am not aure I follow y…
Do you have any proof whatsoever that these so-called poor linguistic Greek hymns were written by rookies? Do you have any proof that these are actually poor linguistic hymns?
Dear Reminkimi,
Of course I have proof. I would never post anything or …
I do not understand why Copts are so anti-Greek
Because it was Byzantium that persecuted the Copts
Because we always think they are better than us to the point we went to them to have them teach us how to say our alphabet thereby destroying our her…
Because 'everyone' knows that Coptic is the language of the Divine, that Christ spoke Coptic, that the Apostles spoke Coptic, that the first language ever to exist was Coptic, that Coptic is superior, that Coptic is the language the angels praise in…
You'll have to come up with a new alphabet too.
I am not sure what does the alphabet have to do with modern Greek hymns that are not authentic.
Do not take one issue and stretch it to invalidate the logic behind it being an issue.
If you take out non-popular hymns because they are Greek and not Coptic, then you'll have to rewrite all the bilingual hymns like Aripsalin and Kiahk psalies.
Both of these items are examples of rookies trying to write in Greek since they contain ma…
You are all fooling yourselves if you think Greek is foreign to Coptic hymns.
No one is denying that Greek was part of the Coptic liturgical prayers. The issue is with the modern hymns that are very poor linguistically and have been produced either …
But would you not then argue that they have become an important part of the Church's tradition? Why should the "famous ones" be treated differently from the seldom chanted ones?
The reason is that the new ones were borrowed and not developed within …
The Scripture text points strongly to the fact that the Angel was one of the appearances of the Son of God in the OT. The majority of the Church Fathers treated it that way as well. Accordingly, the Church teaches the Angel as a personification of …
The original fast as practiced by the holy apostles, and as stated in the OT, was not to eat any type of meet during fasting, including fish meat.
However, because of leniency, the Church permitted fish during all fasts except Great Lent, Fridays a…
Candles
There used to be a candlestick with 7 branches, a symbol of the golden lamp-stand, placed on the altar as is described in the OT and in the book of Revelations. However, this has since been replaced by two candles only. Modern interpretatio…
Altar
The Altar or the table of the lord is where the oblations are offered and sanctified. The Coptic word is "bimanarshawushi" literally meaning the place of sacrificing.
In the early centuries, the altar used to be made out of stone and built o…
He is canonized in the Coptic Orthodox Church. So there's no benefit in discussing what other Apostolic churches do or don't do.
Thanks for this testimony. The whole discussuin has been geared in doubting his sainthood.
Greek has been in our Church for historical and cultural reasons. However, I personally would prefer get rid of the Greek hymns except of the famous ones like kristos anesti.
Why heresy
First, I like to present the basic ideas of the Devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus:
The immense love of our Lord Jesus Christ that did not stop Him from dying for our sins. To repair some of the insults and dishonor aimed at Jesus th…
Reminkimi,
The Greek Church in Egypt belongs to the Greek Church, so is the Catholic Church in Egypt follows the Latin rite. Do you actually believe that these Churches would canonized a saint who the mother Church would consider a heretic, if in f…
The Latin Rite does hold Pope Archilaus. Here are some references:
http://www.saintpatrickdc.org/ss/1107.shtml
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=1099
http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/ALEXOFA.HTM
http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/…
Yes there are errors in the Synexarium. However, if it agrees with the rituals and prayers, then the fact mentioned is true as with the case od Pope Archilaus.
The name Archilaus and Achillas are the same
Cephas rightly pointed out the existence …
Yes there are errors in the Synexarium. However, if it agrees with the rituals and prayers, then the fact mentioned is true as with the case od Pope Archilaus.
The name Archilaus and Achillas are the same
Cephas rightly pointed out the existence …
Yes there are errors in the Synexarium. However, if it agrees with the rituals and prayers, then the fact mentioned is true as with the case od Pope Archilaus.
The name Archilaus and Achillas are the same
Cephas rightly pointed out the existence …
Yes there are errors in the Synexarium. However, if it agrees with the rituals and prayers, then the fact mentioned is true as with the case od Pope Archilaus.
The name Archilaus and Achillas are the same
Cephas rightly pointed out the existence …
Yes there are errors in the Synexarium. However, if it agrees with the rituals and prayers, then the fact mentioned is true as with the case od Pope Archilaus.
The name Archilaus and Achillas are the same
Cephas rightly pointed out the existence …
Yes there are errors in the Synexarium. However, if it agrees with the rituals and prayers, then the fact mentioned is true as with the case od Pope Archilaus.
The name Archilaus and Achillas are the same
Cephas rightly pointed out the existence …