Ironically what is happening may actually be helpful for both of you. The engagement period is a time for both of you to discover each other weaknesses, emotions, decision-making processes, .. etc. This is in order to see if you can be the "half" of…
[quote author=churchbob link=topic=12120.msg143425#msg143425 date=1313783232]
St. John Chrysostom got excommunicated!!!!!!!! ??? :-[
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He was excommunicated but then was forgiven after his death. He is in the Coptic diptych and is in the Cop…
When Adam and Eve fell, the world fell along with it. So, the animals became enemies to man, the earth as cursed to grow thistles and most of all Satan became the ruler of man.
Christ came to restore eternal life to Adam. However, the consequences …
The heresy that souls can be saved in the afterlife gave rise to further modern heresies like the Universal salvation and the Purgatory. This heresy is directly against the Scriptures and was the one that got Origen in trouble.
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12118.msg143403#msg143403 date=1313764491]
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12118.msg143379#msg143379 date=1313719267]
Does not matter what version of Greek is. It is a Greek hymn.[/quote]
By Greek hymn, I assume y…
I agree with Zoksasi statement "The greek used then is not the same Greek today.. OF COURSE, but its purpose in the liturgy was just that: so that the most essential, most sacred parts were to be understood by everyone."
Christianity in Egypt start…
What I meant to say is that Greek texts that are found in the Coptic Church carry different phonological and grammatical characteristics cannot be classified as Greek
This is not true.
Greek hymns like agios, omonogenis, the liturgy of St Mark, …
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12120.msg143385#msg143385 date=1313726769]
Let me start by stating that Origen was excommunicated for 2 reasons: 1. Preaching in Palestine against Demetrius' orders and being ordained in Palestine, then returning to…
[quote author=dzheremi link=topic=12118.msg143380#msg143380 date=1313721215]
The general principle holds, imikhail. No doubt you've heard of Lebanese Arabic, Moroccan Arabic, Hijazi Arabic, etc. While the specific divergences of any given variety va…
Devte pantec ilayi is not Byzantine Greek. If you ask a Greek person, he will probably not know that Deute pantec ilayi is the Egyptian Greek version of the standard Koine/Modern Greek of Δεῦτε πάντες οἱ λαοί. Byzantine Greek has stress and accents…
The reason there exist different ways of pronouncing the same words differently is because we lost discipleship and humility. Every generation think they know better without submitting themselves to our fathers.
This started with the change Aryan i…
[quote author=elsi70x7 link=topic=9585.msg143338#msg143338 date=1313691139]
We are born in sin. In it but not of it.
We state one baptizim for the remission of sins. I think its like when they say someones cancer is in remission. The cancer is gon…
Even if he was excommunicated based on technicality, which is absolutely wrong, he is still excommunicated by the Church.
Excommunication by the Church, for whatever reason, can only be undone by the Church.
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=12118.msg143303#msg143303 date=1313653330]
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone who ordered the Rites and Hymns of the Glorification Hymns for CIA has different pronunciation of the words for Dhevte Pandees or…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12118.msg143324#msg143324 date=1313681907]
No one in the Greek Church will know anything about the meaning or the pronunciation of this or any other Greek hymn in the Coptic Church, especially those found in the glo…
Apocryphal manuscripts like the Protoevangelium of James may not contain the absolute Truth but they do contain some historic events that are passed down from generation to generation and may be corroborated through the Church Fathers writings. So, …
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12028.msg143314#msg143314 date=1313679259]
According to Luke 1, it was Archangel Gabriel who announced the Jesus' nativity to the Virgin, not Archangel Raphael.
Tenaspi, are you talking about the Annunciation of th…
[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12070.msg143315#msg143315 date=1313679739]
I disagree with Posts #8 and #9. But we won't open that subject again. Suffice it to say that there maybe other reasons why we have non-standard Coptic/Arabic hymns other t…
His excommunication does not mean that all his writings are heterodox. That is why we need to be careful when we study patristics so as not to rely on just one writer but our study need to be broad enough to get a consensus.
[quote author=Biboboy link=topic=9585.msg143286#msg143286 date=1313633082]
Agape,
Why do you guys make things so complicated and talk across each other and against each other?
The teachings of the Fathers could be made so simple using an analogy:…
[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=12091.msg143240#msg143240 date=1313548069]
+ Irini nem ehmot,
I highly recommend saying the Jesus prayer as you go to sleep. If you continue to do this more and more, you'll find that you will recite it subconsciously…
[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg143261#msg143261 date=1313593288]
+ Irini nem ehmot,
ZOMG!!!!1111!! I truly believe you do not understand a word I've been saying. You have misrepresented the Church's teachings if you insist on saying that ou…
If you do not want to take the blinders off, that is your prerogative. I don't care. Toz feek.
Dear Kephas BEWARE:
"whoever spreads slander is a fool" Proverbs 10:18
A fool vents all his feelings, But a wise man holds them back. Proverbs 29:11
[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=9585.msg143251#msg143251 date=1313553464]
+ Irini nem ehmot,
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=9585.msg143250#msg143250 date=1313552879]
In baptism, our corrupt nature is changed to an in-corrupt one as I pointed out …
All I have to say is that the sacrament of baptism is for the remission of sins. There is no indication that our nature is transformed as you seem to keep insisting. I have read the prayers for baptism and they also do not indicate that our nature …
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12094.msg143232#msg143232 date=1313536027]
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12094.msg143230#msg143230 date=1313533226]
This is not the tune of Khan ebran but the festal tune.
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"festal tune".........this …