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[quote author=Gay4XC link=topic=12337.msg144873#msg144873 date=1316402963] CY86, don't waste your time talking to a bunch of Pharisees. It'll get you crucified. We gay people are already bearing a heavy cross and don't need to come across the nons…
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12337.msg144872#msg144872 date=1316400029] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12337.msg144871#msg144871 date=1316399746] [quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12337.msg144870#msg144870 date=1316399640] [quote author=im…
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12337.msg144870#msg144870 date=1316399640] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12337.msg144868#msg144868 date=1316398968] The education means learning about sexuality, the struggles that people face in society so …
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I haven't been arguing that people should be given free pass to sin, I'm saying lets give them a free pass to a community where they don't have to feel bad about themselves. What does community have to do with the Church? The Church is not part of…
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The education means learning about sexuality, the struggles that people face in society so that we can be more accommodating to people. Let me follow this logic. If someone is struggling with drugs, he would face societal pressures from job d…
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[quote author=copticyouth86 link=topic=12337.msg144848#msg144848 date=1316317494] Severian, by welcome do you mean 'receive and treat someone hospitably'? [/quote] To me welcome and hospitably mean that the Church provides spiritual …
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[quote author=copticyouth86 link=topic=12337.msg144844#msg144844 date=1316308546] Hi Joshua, While I agree that the church and some homosexuals see the issue in a different light, I'd also point out that there are like wise some homos…
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[quote author=Timothym link=topic=12337.msg144820#msg144820 date=1316209198] this is kinda funny...its not like the church has a stack of 'excommunication certificates' in the priest's drawer waiting to be filled out and distributed. Excommunication…
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12337.msg144811#msg144811 date=1316192782] At the end of the day excommunication is dealt with on a case by case basis. There is no formula that you plug in variables and come up with an answer. It is left to the w…
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[quote author=epchois_nai_nan link=topic=12337.msg144809#msg144809 date=1316184130] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12337.msg144805#msg144805 date=1316181012] This woman, that Jesus forgave in Simon's house did recognize that she was a sinner. W…
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oushai nnouphi does not convey the word year at all. Happy new year = noufri rompi `mberi
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This woman, that Jesus forgave in Simon's house did recognize that she was a sinner. What we are talking about regarding excommunication is for those who do not recognize that they are sineers, do not want to listen to the Church, pose a danger to…
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[quote author=childofaKing link=topic=12363.msg144777#msg144777 date=1316117578] Hello, This may seem trivial, but... is it disrespectful for one to sit in a cross-legged position while reading the Bible (or in any other seated position)? We are t…
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It is clear to me you don't even understand what you're saying. Note the bolded red words. All you have been saying is expel them from the Church. I have provided the definition of excommunication within the context of the Church. Church is the co…
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Since you say 'many fathers' say something, back it up; because quite frankly, just because you say something means absolutely nothing. So, do you deny the fact that many fathers explain the verses of 1 Cor 5:1-6 as excommunication? Are you saying …
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Dear Peter A, I agree completely with you. When one is not allowed to approach the holy mysteries and not allowed to be in communion with the faithful, s/he will realize the seriousness of s/his mistake and how holy s/he needs to be to restore th…
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So you think you know more than St. John Chrysostom, a man who was a theologian, patriarch, saint and prolific writer? You put yourself above him and say you know what St. Paul meant better than him and that he is 'not specific'?! Furthermore, you …
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Don't see anything about kicking a person out of the Church. As I explained earlier, Corinthians 5:1-6 allows for casting those who do not adhere to the Church and cause disease among the congregation, like the ideology of homosexuals, to be cast o…
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How many people enter the church unrepentant of their sins? You have no bloody clue. And yet, if it were up to you, you'd banish the lot of them. That is utter insanity. The only place a sinner can get treatment is within the Church. Even if they ma…
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Traditionally, the Copts and the Syrians do the sign of the cross with their thumb.
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Rather, over time, it is your friend that comes to realize they are sick and accepts the treatment. Your key statement is "realize they are sick". The scenario I created suggests that they won't listen and that they won't realize. You on the other …
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=12337.msg144706#msg144706 date=1316014687] + Irini nem ehmot, [/QUOTE] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12337.msg144648#msg144648 date=1315933206] Back to the satirical comments ... whatever man.[/quote] If you see a …
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Dear Remenkimi, According to W.E.Crum Coptic Dictionary Clarendon Press, 1939, p.239 Nofri (nfr) is a feminine noun. On the same reference p..543 Shai is also a noun and rombi (rnpt) is also a noun. p.296. On the same reference on p.240, nafrshai, …
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[quote author=Timothym link=topic=12337.msg144676#msg144676 date=1315958567] My favourite part is how the guy first of all doesn't even know if Corinthians is in the New Testament or not...not judging but clearly this guy then didn't do his homework…
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Dear imikhail, What did you mean by Coptic is not Egyptian. Coptic means Egyptian. I hope I misunderstood you quoting somebody else, and I didn't get that, but I hope you explain what you meant to me... Oujai qen `P[C I am sorry ophadece for misund…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12337.msg144657#msg144657 date=1315942598] imikhail, I'm not so sure the aim of this thread is to make the Coptic community more "acceptable" to homosexuality rather than to make the Coptic community more "acceptabl…
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I have included the whole discussion for sake of completeness along with working links. The word Nofri Rompi (nofri rombi) is an ancient expression, from the hieroglyphic nfr rnpt (neferrenepet) The chief scribe of the treasury of the temple of Am…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12337.msg144652#msg144652 date=1315935733] I think both Unworthy and imikhail are saying the same thing but in different ways. Both agree that the Church will not change her view on homosexuality to accomodate and …
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An argument that is against Kamal Isaac's: The word Nofri Rompi (nofri rombi) is an ancient expression, from the hieroglyphic nfr rnpt (neferrenepet if you try to read it as the standard reading of heiroglyphic by adding 'e' between consonants). Su…
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12337.msg144649#msg144649 date=1315933928] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12337.msg144648#msg144648 date=1315933206] So your strategy is that even they do not agree with what the priest says and insist that the …