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disciples and apostles are used interchangeably. They were 12 and 72 (not 70)
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I believe what ophadece is getting at (ophadece correct me if I am wrong) is that the clergy may sacrifice essential elements of the Orthodox worship under the banner of saving others. The Catholic Church felt into this trap a long time ago by elim…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12422.msg145654#msg145654 date=1317836320] My personal opinion imikhail is that people got bored... especially with the original rites of singing the scriptures... and add to that translating them from Coptic afterw…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=12428.msg145644#msg145644 date=1317829647] + Irini nem ehmot, What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 1:9 I contend that people tod…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=12428.msg145640#msg145640 date=1317825517] + Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12428.msg145639#msg145639 date=1317824618] [quote author=Biboboy link=topic=12428.msg145638#msg145638 date=1317823274] Th…
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[quote author=Biboboy link=topic=12428.msg145638#msg145638 date=1317823274] The formula used by St. Irenaeus and St. Athanasius, that was later used by the Cappadocian Fathers and all the Orthodox disciples of these Fathers is: "God became human, s…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12422.msg145634#msg145634 date=1317812353] Dear Cephas, That is a good book you provided, but I still can't find the answer to my question. Thanks anyway... Oujai qen `P[C [/quote] The Church, in her current liturg…
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[quote author=lankyknight1990 link=topic=12428.msg145628#msg145628 date=1317788724] Hey guys. I was discussing theosis with a few people, both Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox. I also know that theosis is one of the contraversial issues surrou…
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"But whatever city you enter, and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say, 'The very dust of your city which clings to us we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near you. But I say to you …
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=12412.msg145605#msg145605 date=1317752753] In HH's book, Comparative Theology, it states that the saints remind our Lord of His saints so that His compassionate and merciful heart would be moved immediately upon hearing…
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Who is doing the remembering Mainly God and we are participants. and who is being remembered? All the saints that pleased God since the beginning. Who needs remembering The lives of the saints and who is benefiting from remembering? We who are …
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While we are at it, we may also consider changing the Bible text to fit the new liturgical translation. Here are the verses: Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants 32:13 I guess Moses was wrong in telling God to remember Abraham, Isaa…
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The fathers think of the Eucharist as light and fire. Light for those who practice repentance and confession but fire to those who take without discernment.
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Church raises our rank and level when we are in the Liturgy to the level that we are as honoured as they are Where in the liturgical text can we get this understanding? In fact, we say we are not worthy to even mention their names Yes we pray tha…
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we're actually praying for them the Church doesn't consider them having any more honour than us at this stage The saints definitely have more honor than us at this stage and at every stage. Even in heaven, there will be saints who will have more ho…
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We are not asking God to remember the saints who have pleased him since He does not need us to ask Him to remember His saints. Nor are we praying for the saints since they have greater honor than we. The beginning of the commemoration: Liturgy of S…
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I do not agree that changing the letter k to n solves the issue. It is God who remembers not us. We are pleading to God through His pleasant remembrance of his saints to forgive us, support us and above all lead us to paradise as He lead His saints…
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[quote author=✞TheGodChrist✞ link=topic=12421.msg145558#msg145558 date=1317688950] So he is a 'Saint,' but not a 'Church Father' according to his interpretation of certain theology. [/quote] This is very correct.
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[quote author=✞TheGodChrist✞ link=topic=12421.msg145556#msg145556 date=1317686336] So... Not a Church Father (because of errors) + Spiritual Piety = 'Blessed' ? Saints can be wrong in certain aspects. We are only human. [/quote] Church Fathers a…
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If you look at the commemoration of the saints, the text says arikataxion P[oic `nteker`vmeu`i `nnye;ouab tyrou Dear Reminkimi, I am not sure where you got the text above. The text should be (St. Basil Liturgy): Epidy P=o=c ouahcahni pe `nte pekmo…
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[quote author=✞TheGodChrist✞ link=topic=12421.msg145551#msg145551 date=1317682226] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12421.msg145545#msg145545 date=1317670770] That is true. That is why Augustine is called "blessed" and not "saint" within the Orthod…
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Do not rely on only one translation .. use different ones to get a good understanding. Stay away from the liberal ones though (women bible, ...)
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[quote author=churchbob link=topic=12422.msg145539#msg145539 date=1317665102] I think i read somewhere that the whole book of john is read on the resurrection day. Can someone give me more clarification. [/quote] Yes. This is correct. Tuesday - Ma…
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[quote author=✞TheGodChrist✞ link=topic=12421.msg145540#msg145540 date=1317665629] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12421.msg145536#msg145536 date=1317655145] [quote author=✞TheGodChrist✞ link=topic=12421.msg145530#msg145530 date=1317649510] St. Au…
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[quote author=CopticLina link=topic=11882.msg145537#msg145537 date=1317659046] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11882.msg141656#msg141656 date=1311093719] The argument of not needing a mediator between the confessor and God is not new and is not re…
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[quote author=✞TheGodChrist✞ link=topic=12421.msg145530#msg145530 date=1317649510] St. Augustine is not commemorated in our Synaxarium (like St. Jerome). He is a western Father who was venerated long before the East-West schism of 1054 A.D., where m…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=12337.msg145497#msg145497 date=1317531842] + Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=copticyouth86 link=topic=12337.msg145490#msg145490 date=1317508870] Well so far this has been my experience, I have been hoping tha…
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=12412.msg145466#msg145466 date=1317475580] Why do we pray for God to remember all His saints who pleased Him since the beginning? I've asked this before, but my senile mind isn't reliable. ::) [/quote] So that they …
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[quote author=copticyouth86 link=topic=12337.msg145464#msg145464 date=1317464369] ??? Again, if you want to know where i stand regarding the bible (i.e. my position) and information regarding my knowledge of the bible and teachings of christianity…
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[quote author=copticyouth86 link=topic=12337.msg145459#msg145459 date=1317458042] Whats stupid Imikhail is people trying to find out what I personally believe and people trying to preach to me in a public thread that is based on a completely differe…