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+ Irini nem ehmot, How could Adam know or understand something that didn't even exist yet?
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Please re-read everything I've written. You'll have your answer.
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+ Irini nem ehmot, I'm going to say this as simply as I can. PRE-FALL Man was mortal but incorruptible. By incorruptible we mean that man was not subject to death and decay morally, spiritually and physically. POST-FALL Man was mortal but had now…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11687.msg140157#msg140157 date=1308847906] Here you present another problem: If there was no death before the fall, then man and animal are equal in their immortality. [/quote] You're confusing i…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11687.msg140154#msg140154 date=1308846757] The corruption here is the corruption of the flesh that I eluded to earlier in my last post. [/quote] Wrong again, because read the last sentence in th…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, St. Athanasius himself teaches that man was created mortal but incorruptible (i.e. he could not die). You really need to read more carefully and with greater understanding. From St. Athanasius' On the Incarnation Thus do they v…
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+ Irini nem ehomt, While this is true, I believe that the symbolism is more about the 'original' 12 disciples as it were.
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+ Irini nem ehmot, From St. John Chrysostom's Homily on Romans (Homily 14) Ver. 19, 20. "For the earnest expectation of the creation waits," he says, "for the revelation of the sons of God. For the creation was made subject to vanity, not willingly…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=Mozes link=topic=11687.msg140120#msg140120 date=1308790732] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11687.msg140094#msg140094 date=1308773754] Certainly Adam understood what death is as He saw animals, birds, ...etc die …
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+ Irini nem ehmot, There is no such thing as a 'big' sin and a 'small' sin. The wage of all sin is death. Work on each sin with the aid of your spiritual father.
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+ Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=lightening link=topic=9585.msg140108#msg140108 date=1308779284] sorry, i didn't understand your answer. and, may i add, it is not a theological one... [/quote] Is this a joke? A commentary on Romans 5 by a renowne…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Read St. John Chrysostom's Homily on Romans. In particular Homily 9 and Homily 10.
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Adam probably didn't understand what death was. However, he did have a child like innocence and believed everything God told him. As such, God's words were enough for him to understand the gravity of what would happen if he ate o…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, It is my understanding that the bells symbolize the 12 apostles. You'll note that only 11 of the 12 bells actually ring. The 12th one represents Judas who lost his apostleship as a result of his betrayal.
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+ Irini nem ehmot, The question is inherently flawed because it does not view sin in the proper light and and seems to imply that God can somehow not be ever present. God is the eternal 'I AM', that is to say, He is the only One who truly IS and i…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Thank you for that commentary by St. Jerome. It was certainly very insightful. That being said, I'm not entirely sure that St. Jerome is saying that the Ancient of Days is the second Person of the Trinity. I have noticed among th…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Again, the purpose of an icon is not to depict the actual physical characteristics of an individual the way a painting of a portrait or a picture does. The purpose of an icon is to convey spiritual truths and are windows into Hea…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, The question itself is inherently flawed. From another post: Sin is a volitional act which involves a 'turning away' from God, it is the creature that turns his back from the Creator and His grace, a flight from Him. Without God…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, If you will permit me, I will answer your question with a two questions of my own: why do you feel it is important to physically depict Christ as He actually looked? How will that affect one's spiritual life for the better?
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+ Irini nem ehmot, If you don't think it is a theophany, that is fine. Regardless, we are given a description of the Ancient of Days. Furthermore, based on the context of the vision, it is (seemingly) clear that the Ancient of Days is God the Fathe…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, [quote author=Ioannes link=topic=11645.msg139772#msg139772 date=1308329064] I am not exactly sure why it is necessary to hurl insults my way. I find it disgusting and offensive to see women approach the body of Christ while dress…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Seriously man, get over it. You've posted over 10 threads about this same topic. Grow up and move on. There's more to life than this. Focus on your spiritual life, growing more in Christ and then, once Christ knows you love Him, …
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Thank you for the link to the commentary. However, it still does not address my question. I know the Ancient of Days is God. My question is, is this not a theophany of God the Father? If this is, in fact, a description of God the…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, The shroud should not be taken as authoritative as to what Christ looked like. There is insufficient evidence that it is even Christ's. The second thing you bring up is the veil of Veronica. Regarding that, here is an interesti…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, I'm not entirely sure why we cannot necessarily depict God the Father in iconography. While the Father never was incarnate, what do we make of the Ancient of Days described in Danial? Is this not a theophany of God the Father?
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Wikipedia article on Icons. Icons depict spiritual truths, and not actual physical depictions in the way a portrait does. As for the more artistic portrayals of Christ (i.e. not icons), they are at the discretion of the artist. …
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Found another article you may find helpful: An Introduction to the Orthodox Conception of the Holy Trinity
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Not really. These are relational terms, that is to say, how each Person of the Trinity relates to each other. Christ does say that, 'the Father is greater than I' but only in the sense that the Father is the fountainhead of the T…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, Christ is the Eternal Logos of God, the Second Person of the Trinity, begotten of the Father before all ages. When He was incarnate and came to earth, He still was the Second Person of the Trinity, being the Son of God. From St.…
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+ Irini nem ehmot, I suggest you read On the Incarnation by St. Athanasius the Apostolic. It covers everything on the topic.