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Father bless!
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=11839.msg141494#msg141494 date=1310652565]
Kephas, why are you objecting when the teaching of the Orthodox Church is clear?
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I'm not objecting. I'm merely trying to be…
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I was also just thinking, 'bodily form' does not necessarily mean 'physical and tangible manifestation/incarnation'. For instance, in any apparition of a saint, the saint appears in a 'bodily form'. However, not everyone necessar…
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You raise some interesting points. I was quickly glancing at what the Fathers had to say about the appearance of the Holy Spirit at the baptism of Christ and the only Father that really says anything about the manifestation is St…
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The examples provided earlier give examples where the rules of fasting are broken for the salvation of another. The rules were broken. Full stop. So you're wrong to use the word 'never'. (Once again, this is not regarding the OP,…
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Well now we're getting somewhere.
One could argue that the Holy Spirit did not take a form in the way Christ did either. The Holy Spirit 'appeared like a dove' at the baptism of Christ and 'as tongues of fire' on the day of Pen…
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My God man! You're 0 for 2 in reading what I've written.[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=11829.msg141456#msg141456 date=1310611357]
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Why are you bolding everything?
And what you said in the latter portion is fa…
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I realize that, but this thread is appropriately titled to support my question as well. I do genuinely wish someone could provide some insight into them.
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Why are you bolding everything?
And what you said in the latter portion is false. The scenario in this thread is not an example of it, but there are times when the rules are broken.
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I must say, I greatly admire and respect your zeal for Orthodoxy. I find that converts to Orthodoxy truly appreciate the faith more so than cradle Orthodox (I speak of myself in paritcular) who often take it for granted. You do r…
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[quote author=joseph.vandenbrink link=topic=11783.msg141391#msg141391 date=1310526814]
Being a former Protestant and university and Bible college student, any Bible and/or Christianity course offered at a university is either bas…
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That's typically the case. If a church is named after Abba Antony and Abba Paul, Abba Antony is named first. This is also the case in the hymn 'Pi-Nishti'.
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I'm not sure if this will be useful for your research, but you could try checking out Two thousand years of Coptic Christianity By Otto Friedrich August Meinardus
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I had asked this question before and will copy my line of reasoning here. If someone could address it, I would be most grateful.
[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=11637.msg139798#msg139798 date=1308345107]
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I'm n…
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Father bless!
Forgive me, but a number of the Fathers you have quoted are just as ambiguous in their use of the word 'day' as the Moses was in the book of Genesis. Further, there is no reason to think that science and faith are …
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Genesis does not teach a creation in 6 literal days. That is your own independent reading of the text. The Fathers and the Church teach that the days are non-literal.
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You are confusing two things. First of, spiritual truths, which are revealed to us by Christ and scripture. The second is material/physical truths, which are revealed to us through science. This is important: Genesis is NOT a sci…
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From Augustine's City of God (Book XI)
Chapter 7.— Of the Nature of the First Days, Which are Said to Have Had Morning and Evening, Before There Was a Sun.
We see, indeed, that our ordinary days have no evening but by the settin…
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From Fr. Athanasius Iskander's Article SCIENCE, GENESIS AND CREATION (3) AND GOD SAID LET THERE BE LIGHT
AND THE EVENING AND THE MORNING WERE THE FIRST DAY:
This brings us to a controversial point even among Christians: Were
the …
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This is what H.H. Pope Shenouda has to say about the issue:
Question: How can the saying of the Bible that God created the world in six days coincide with the opinion of the geologists that the age of the earth is thousands even …
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From the Hexaemeron (Homily 2) by St. Basil the Great
8. " And God called the light Day and the darkness he called Night." Genesis 1:5 Since the birth of the sun, the light that it diffuses in the air, when shining on our hemisph…
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John,
Read what God creates on the fourth day: the sun and the moon. How can there be a literal day when the way to measure a literal day had not yet been created? God is not illogical, though man certainly can be at times.
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I think the verse in Exodus is just regurgitating what Moses wrote in Genesis. I don't think it gives any more credence to the idea that the 'day' in Genesis is a literal day. I think Moses is merely drawing a parallel between th…
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Forgive me, but it's a mistake to think the earth is only 10,000 years old based on: a) Genesis and b) the Genealogy found in Matthew and Luke. Here are a few reasons.
1. Assuming that the genealogies are entirely complete, the …
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I think the Antiphonarium needs to be translated into English (or whatever language is the vernacular for youth). Otherwise, within a few generations, it will be lost. Let's face it, in the west, Arabic is rapidly declining as a …
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11769.msg140716#msg140716 date=1309636513]
in the rules and rites of the Church, if kiahk 29 becomes to be on January 8, than January 7 and 8 is considered the feast. The eve of January 7th (t…