[quote author=1Sail0r link=topic=12130.msg143438#msg143438 date=1313788726]
Where can I find these? I don't know the conclusion hymns for St. Mary's fast and don't know where to find it online, would someone be able to help me please?
Thanks.
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12118.msg143356#msg143356 date=1313701819]
Dear Mina,
I don't know why you are so upset. Why don't you let any body express themselves and hot topics in their heads the way they wish? If you are too troubled, don't …
why does EVERY HYMN POST these days goes into a pronunciation argument......and you all know that that argument no one will one--yet you still argue to give yourself some satisfaction. think people.....THINK!!!!
THe answer to Kerrelos question is s…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12095.msg143256#msg143256 date=1313588402]
should be etabe emmaria (should be another M before Maria)
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=12095.msg143257#msg143257 date=1313588442]
[quote author=minatasgeel li…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12094.msg143230#msg143230 date=1313533226]
This is not the tune of Khan ebran but the festal tune.
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"festal tune".........this is just too broad of a statement.
[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12065.msg143167#msg143167 date=1313377792]
So is it wrong to sing a Kiahk hymn during Saint Mary's Fast? For example, O MARY or Your love embraced me?
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well those are arabic madaieh rather than hymns....…
I don't think you are ignorant....i just think that you don't know much hymns that when you learn somthing so small yet beautiful and it is said one time, you than want to say it ALL the time instead of learning other things.
The rite is clear. We …
[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12065.msg143131#msg143131 date=1313256031]
Why do we add parts to different hymns during Bright Saturday? For example, Evlogite for the third hoos. Also, can we sing the hymns with the additions on during a regu…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12035.msg143110#msg143110 date=1313176397]
What is missing is Mina adding Ascension fact: only one watos psali, as it falls on a watos day. There is one Adam psali that he mentioned that could be said UP UNTIL Pente…
For Ascension, there is only one watos psali (despite the adam and watos ones shown in queens black psalmody which is for period between ascension and pentecost--includes adam days)
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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12035.msg143092#msg143092 date=1313163339]
for the psalies, that is a clear example of hymns that when titled adam or watos, they refer to th…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12035.msg143040#msg143040 date=1313108546]
Yes Mina, and in some cases we have Adam tunes changing with ceremonials as well. Especially joyful tunes as is the case with verses of cymbals, difnar, and psalies.
Oujai …
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[quote author=Unworthy1 link=topic=12054.msg143060#msg143060 date=1313132556]
As a funny aside (well sort of funny), a friend told me of a sunday school teacher who was explai…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143082#msg143082 date=1313159966]
St. Mary's conception was a miracle, the born of her womb is God, thus it is very likely she did not experience pain because of His Holiness.
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What i am saying is t…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143071#msg143071 date=1313148496]
We do not inherit the sin of Adam and Eve. Rather we inherit the corruption that the sin brought - the fallen nature that Christ came and renewed through His death, resurre…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143051#msg143051 date=1313118264]
No it is not. Immaculate conception is that St Mary herself was born without sin. We, Orthodox, do not believe in this heresy.
What I said was that the born of the Theotok…
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12054.msg143049#msg143049 date=1313117803]
It seems that the Latin fathers and the Eastern ones differ on this issue. The Eastern Tradition is that she bore Christ without pain for pain is the result of sin and the …
no contradiction. this is similar to many parts in kiahk madaieh.
the word used in the original coptic is: pathos.....a greek word that means passion/pain/suffering. the Church Fathers used this word to describe the consequence of the original sin--…
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=12037.msg143034#msg143034 date=1313102463]
What's weird is that in
http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Hymns/Annual/Verses_of_Cymbals_and_Doxologies/Ibrahim_Ayad/Part_1/01.Adam_intro_for_verses_of_cymbals.931.mp3…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12035.msg143038#msg143038 date=1313105890]
Dear imikhail,
All the doxologies of midnight praises, matins praises (and of course vespers) are Watos doxologies. I haven't heard of Adam doxologies in glorifications tha…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12037.msg143030#msg143030 date=1313097382]
Dear Mina,
Hold on a minute, so you are saying it is actually not an invention chanting this fourth verse? OK, why is it not written in any of the older books then? What I …
[quote author=JG link=topic=12037.msg143024#msg143024 date=1313095517]
Does anyone know of a recording by a reliable cantor who chants this verse?
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Cantor Ibrahim Ayad....
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12035.msg143006#msg143006 date=1313071689]
Adam and Watos refer both to the days and the tune.
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[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=12035.msg142981#msg142981 date=1313039694]
so are they only supposed to be sa…
[quote author=Crazy4Christ1 link=topic=12037.msg143010#msg143010 date=1313075142]
that is the reason i got from copticheritage.org. no inventions
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you're funny.....
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=12037.msg142970#msg142970 date=13…