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[quote author=servant33 link=topic=12627.msg148222#msg148222 date=1322694842] So I heard this year 29 Kiahk is actually January 8? And that this is happening because next year is a leap year? How does the extra day next year affect the date for Chri…
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[quote author=peter_saad link=topic=12618.msg148131#msg148131 date=1322624441] [quote author=servant33 link=topic=12618.msg148128#msg148128 date=1322623613] Ok guys, here's another question: What if you brought some regular crackers to school for l…
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during fasts we don't east any non-fasting food. how complicated is it to follow that?!
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[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=12616.msg148112#msg148112 date=1322601560] My suggestion: don't have this survey. Let the obvious speak as to why this is not appropriate. [/quote] i agree
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[quote author=pharaoh123 link=topic=12592.msg148094#msg148094 date=1322576634] Does anybody know what the status is of the Synodal Committee that is evaluating Kiahk praises? [/quote] the committee's final decisions were put into the El-Sourian Kaih…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=12592.msg148089#msg148089 date=1322535960] [quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12592.msg148087#msg148087 date=1322532689] [quote author=imikhail link=topic=12592.msg148085#msg148085 date=1322524781] Per the Tarteeb el…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12592.msg148082#msg148082 date=1322520171] Does that book include English translations?[/quote] nope. If not, is there such a book? sadly....no.
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[quote author=Timothym link=topic=12592.msg148079#msg148079 date=1322517051] Where can I get the full Kiahk Midnight Praise Book (7&4)? I have the vespers praise one from the Sorian monastery and it is huge so I can't imagine how much bigger the…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=12592.msg148076#msg148076 date=1322513945] I can't remember where I read this, but basically a number of these melodies and hymns were composed when Copts were severely persecuted and would hide all day and all nigh…
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The structure of the kiahk midnight praise of any day is the same as the annual days with these changes: - The tunes - Psalies that are added to hymns (psalies on each hoos, on doxologies, commemoration, theotokis) - Arabic Psalies (basically arabic…
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[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12609.msg148065#msg148065 date=1322501609] I'm talking about my personal readings. [/quote] i don't think it matters....whatever makes you know, believe and understand.
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Andrew...it really depends on where are you doing. In Church and liturgical services, you must stick to the rites.
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Well......not that i disagree ....but i just think that whoever gave that opinion doesn't really know the structure of the roumi and the mou'aqab parts that are said on the saturday tasbeha. [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=12592.msg148043#…
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[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=12592.msg148032#msg148032 date=1322426720] So the only thing Kiahky said from the Start of the fast until Hatoor 30 is The ending for Amen Alleluia (Pimici Evol...)? [/quote] Also, why must there be four 7&…
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=12592.msg147982#msg147982 date=1322204924] [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12592.msg147975#msg147975 date=1322178085] There MUST be four 7&4 nights done. New years celebrations means nothing compared…
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There MUST be four 7&4 nights done. New years celebrations means nothing compared to the this rite. Also not all churches have special services for that night.....
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i donno wat you guys are taking about. the tarkeeb of the tune on the words, in my definition of hymns, is fine among different cantors.
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12569.msg147916#msg147916 date=1322078148] I may be misunderstanding Arabic, so correct me if I'm wrong Mina. The exact translation from Arabic would be "As it was and it likewise will be to the generations of gener…
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Text of ospren found in the Muharrraq book page 375 and 515 (and i think i have a 1959 edition): Wcper yn ke ectin ke ecte ic geneac genewn ke ic touc cumpantac `e`wnac twn `e`wnwn `amyn. The arabic that goes with it: كما كان وهو كذلك يكون إلى أجي…
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[quote author=Timothym link=topic=12592.msg147912#msg147912 date=1322067476] [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12592.msg147886#msg147886 date=1322012351] [quote author=Timothym link=topic=12592.msg147884#msg147884 date=1322006161] As for the psal…
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The one i have on the text library is that one that we say, it's the one that we have recorded in the Seraphim chorus and it is the one that we the archdiocese adopted to be the stranded. "As it was, and shall be...
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12592.msg147908#msg147908 date=1322062330] If the conclusion canon hymn (pimisi evol khen eviot) is not supposed to be said till Kiahk 1, then the Advent fasting during Hatoor has not hymn or rite changes. Is it not…
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[quote author=Timothym link=topic=12592.msg147884#msg147884 date=1322006161] As for the psalmody of evening vespers in Kiahk, do we say all 9 of the Theotokias etc or are they divided, some in each week? [/quote] They are not theotokias--that is a m…
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There are different consequences of sins....what comes out of a sin changes many things in the future. We cannot change the results of a mistake but always are welcomed to repent.
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Part of the english hymn: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/858172/Madeha_in_Yestermage_tune.wma Part of the arabic hymn: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/858172/Madeha_in_Yestermage_Tune_ar_MZaher.mp3
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=12569.msg147876#msg147876 date=1321998208] Can someone post the words of the other "osperin"? I couldn't find it on this site and I don't have the new Southern diocese liturgical book. [/quote] maybe when i get home…
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I don't know what are you talking about.......coptic hymns flourished more in the places outside egypt being able to get all of those hymn across the internet (tasbeha.org). I know deacons who know hymns here in the states better than many cantors i…
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Kiahk hymns (in fact the entire rite of the Advent) begin only on the coptic month of Kiahk. What many in the first week of the fast (that is not part of kiahk) is only say the ending of the Advent fast in Amen alleluia (pimisi evol khen efiot, khag…
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Really hard. There is a recording of the arabic madeha by cantor zaher.
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The original coptic: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/230 a hymn said in the same tune: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/1621