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[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=5993.msg80216#msg80216 date=1197408024] Forgive me minagir but i do not think you understand what is being argued and why. I am not saying we havent applied our own tune to the hymns, obviously we have, but that is…
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[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=5993.msg80211#msg80211 date=1197401534] So many of our churche's hymns are greek, allow me to list a few, some not necessarily during the time of Pope Cyril: I Parthenos Tenen (some verses) Khristos Anesty Tou lit…
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[quote author=PopeKyrillos link=topic=6008.msg80208#msg80208 date=1197396119] The other orban bread got me thinking about something, Christ only used a loaf of bread, no stamp or anything. Who in the church history decided to put the stamp on the or…
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[quote author=Anglian link=topic=6002.msg80145#msg80145 date=1197239521] This is I think, a custom rather than a rule, but has long been practised in the Church. Of course one could hardly insist on priests having long hair - bald men would be at a …
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[quote author=perfectsinner link=topic=5962.msg80144#msg80144 date=1197237712] hi if it is the same meaning ..then i suppose it makes sense... ..it is just i always thought the word dome is referring to.. the dome in the church.. for example, "ho…
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[quote author=perfectsinner link=topic=5962.msg80131#msg80131 date=1197195508] hi every1 ..sorry to bringing this up again..but i checked today in Kiahk and the english translation said dome not tabernacle..could it be a mistake in translation ...o…
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because that would be to extreme. do you kno how hard is it to just keep your hair grow. also also don't forget that priests are those who live in the world to keep the faithful.....they have to be part of the world, and i don't think growing hair w…
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[quote author=Tishori link=topic=6000.msg80105#msg80105 date=1197145956] i know i agree i wont tell him he is wrong but i was just asking if anyone had news from the diocese or anything so that i could show him, since tonight is def. Kiahky. But tha…
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[quote author=Κηφᾶς link=topic=5998.msg80107#msg80107 date=1197147937] [coptic]+ Iryny nem `hmot>[/coptic] I just realized how redundant I was. Well, despite that, instead of erasing it, I figure I'll add one more to my post count. 700 posts b…
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[quote author=Tishori link=topic=6000.msg80098#msg80098 date=1197141673] Hey everyone, I know this has been talked about already many times but i want'ed to ask one last time. Is the tasbeha tonight considered kiahky or is tonight annual and the ki…
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[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=5993.msg80096#msg80096 date=1197139619] [quote author=minagir link=topic=5993.msg80071#msg80071 date=1197055412] [quote author=Orthodox11 link=topic=5993.msg80070#msg80070 date=1197054117] [quote author=ophadece li…
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[quote author=Anba Bishoy link=topic=5998.msg80081#msg80081 date=1197066652] Check this out: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/1388 And as jydeacon said the first Shenouti was number 55, and the second number 65. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) [/quote] actuall…
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[quote author=Orthodox11 link=topic=5993.msg80070#msg80070 date=1197054117] [quote author=ophadece link=topic=5993.msg80069#msg80069 date=1197023516] One last point, I hope we stick to the Coptic pronunciation "ebarthenos", rather than the modern Gr…
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[quote author=ougai link=topic=5948.msg80061#msg80061 date=1197005955] Hi everone, I thank all of you for this discussion. It is nice to read the debates and here the opinion of those knowledgeable people out there. The preparation of this humble b…
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Actually some of the known tunes of the hymns i listed below were very hard to find and the only source i actually have right now of them is Wagdi Bishara who originally brought them from a source in Alex, Egypt. that why not much people know anythi…
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[quote author=Orthodox11 link=topic=5993.msg80046#msg80046 date=1196970282] [quote author=minagir link=topic=5993.msg80043#msg80043 date=1196967898] All the the greek hymns that were taken from the greek church, hoping to unite as an orthodox church…
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[quote author=shnoda link=topic=5948.msg80039#msg80039 date=1196952824] [quote author=minagir link=topic=5948.msg79545#msg79545 date=1195619788] great job......but one major thing i first saw was Tennav. You don't say Tennav from te begining of Kiah…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=5993.msg80035#msg80035 date=1196939798] Dear all, If you go to http://www.goarch.org/en/special/listen_learn_share/nativity/listen/ you can find the hymn ebarthenos sung in the Greek Orthodox Church tune. It is so n…
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[quote author=Tishori link=topic=5986.msg79967#msg79967 date=1196729691] Hey everyone! Ok so since Kiahk tasbeha starts this Saturday, I was wondering if anyone had these hymns in Arabic but in English Letters. I'm pretty sure that it was written u…
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I havn't read every thing that was written but i looked through most of it. and upon that, all i have to say is there are things that are set up for everyone of us. we are not all the same. God's will for us is different. Yes the goal is to get us b…
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[quote author=Meena_Ameen link=topic=5968.msg79904#msg79904 date=1196557323] you see, i was thinking that, but i think its deeper than that. Why would he not drink or eat the body and blood while on earth. But at the end of the world when we are in …
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[quote author=Meena_Ameen link=topic=5968.msg79897#msg79897 date=1196527431] so than.. what did Jesus mean when he said "But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Fat…
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[quote author=donia_kiwi link=topic=5978.msg79880#msg79880 date=1196491818] who wrote the gospel of st.luke? is st.luke of the disciple , i think he was not one of them correct me if i was wrong.. the first few verses in Ch.1 shows that someone els…
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my perfect world is with my LORD.....
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[quote author=Anglian link=topic=5968.msg79840#msg79840 date=1196426580] Dear Minagir, Thank you. The treatment of Judas by the early Church is an interesting one. One of the fragments of the writings of PAPIAS OF HIERAPOLIS records this: 1 From A…
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[quote author=Christ4Life link=topic=5968.msg79811#msg79811 date=1196384994] [quote author=Meena_Ameen link=topic=5968.msg79771#msg79771 date=1196301754] i was just reading some exlanatory notes from the orthodox church on this topic and it turns ou…
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[quote author=Anglian link=topic=5968.msg79789#msg79789 date=1196357345] I'm sure this must have been dealt with, but since we hold that Our Lord gave Himself up voluntarily to save mankind, was Judas not just a means to that end? [/quote] yes of c…
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[quote author=His Servant link=topic=5968.msg79767#msg79767 date=1196299234] the sack of silver [/quote] actaully ur rit....i said it all wrong.....he does hold the sack of silve........sorryyy
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[quote author=His Servant link=topic=5968.msg79762#msg79762 date=1196295635] [quote author=minagir link=topic=5968.msg79760#msg79760 date=1196290521] [quote author=His Servant link=topic=5968.msg79758#msg79758 date=1196287940] that is true. In a lot…
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[quote author=His Servant link=topic=5968.msg79758#msg79758 date=1196287940] that is true. In a lot of the icons i see it has the 11 and then judas in the background with the sack of silver. I believe from what i learned, he was there, then left. Bu…