[quote author=TITL link=topic=10109.msg123709#msg123709 date=1291679456]
odsak = your holiness.
It's a respectful way to address priests in arabic, in case Fr. Peter was curious lol
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odsoh knows that :)
[quote author=Kiro7 link=topic=10131.msg123711#msg123711 date=1291679880]
Do we say all 6 doxologies for kiahk for each vespers or matins or certain ones on certain weeks?
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mainly the first one is enough.....
[quote author=Ιωσήφ Γαβριήλ link=topic=10098.msg123688#msg123688 date=1291675608]
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123679#msg123679 date=1291674297]
I do believe it is and whatever day it will fall on you'd still serve in it in the middle …
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10109.msg123680#msg123680 date=1291674355]
Anything that is blessed is holy.
The lamb which becomes the Body of our Lord is supremely holy, not because it is holy as set apart to the Lord, but because it IS th…
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10101.msg123676#msg123676 date=1291674087]
Lol! I cannot believe that any Byzantine could ever say that her pope is Pope Shenouda. That is just so bizarre and completely wrong on so many levels. :o
I did go and…
how would this holiness of the bread in the basket be different from the holiness of the Lamb chosen to be sanctified during the Descent of the Holy Spirit?
[quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=10109.msg123639#msg123639 date=1291668074]
It is holy bread and is supposed to be burned according to what I have been taught.
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also "Qorban" is not really holy bread....the word means oblation/sacrifice/gift…
Baraka is DIFFERENT than the rest of the orban and it is different than the Lamb that goes into the Sanctuary.
[quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=10109.msg123663#msg123663 date=1291672159]
Is that an insult? I don't get it... It is Holy because it is…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123643#msg123643 date=1291669484]
I disagree because that would mean that glorifications would change to joyful, kiahky, lenten, etc since they aren't the primary rites. Doesn't make sense to me. The only e…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123644#msg123644 date=1291669566]
Yes it does. Any chance of sharing that ouseyou afshai?
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it was a loong time ago...i am not even sure i know where it is.
[quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=10109.msg123639#msg123639 date=1291668074]
This is just my opinion but...
I COMPLETLY disagree with anyone who dips orban in anything weather hard or soft.
It is NOT a cookie that you can dip in milk...
It is holy br…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123627#msg123627 date=1291664286]
NO YOU DON'T... why do we suppose we are compelled to change the tune of a service once it's sandwiched between two others or directly follows another. Please don't start m…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123629#msg123629 date=1291664440]
You Mina keep saying hoses when you mean lobsh's... not my fault
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hehehe.......the connection i made through the fact that w say ADAM psalies and madayeh on them st…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123624#msg123624 date=1291663738]
Ok this is from the mobile so not concise. First of all canticles are not subject to Adam or Watos but everything else is.... clear?[/quote]
but we are not talking about th…
OH...DON'T BE SHOCKED....actually i think that specific person came here on the site a looong time ago and opened a homosexuality thread which got out of hand because of what he said.
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123583#msg123583 date=1291641024]
OK, as long as those hymns were dropped for one reason or another, it doesn't mean we shouldn't hold on to them. Because they were found by someone, and published, they sho…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123574#msg123574 date=1291623759]
That's exactly my point. It's a separate set of rites with its own set of tunes and it doesn't change with the ceremonial, as does not the laqqan service, the general funer…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123539#msg123539 date=1291587815]
I wasn't even talking about laqqan but I personally view it as an independent service in its own right that HAS TO be annual whatever the rites of the day. PRetty much like…
[quote author=Ιωσήφ Γαβριήλ link=topic=10103.msg123537#msg123537 date=1291587090]
A very edifying post Mina. I never once stepped back and realised how complicated the setup actually is. You have to be really enthusiastic to get into it properly, a …
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123530#msg123530 date=1291581930]
YOur post is very informative man thanks. NOt meaning to patronize or be cheeky but I'm asking for opinions here: that old teaching you alluded to, where is it mentioned an…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123531#msg123531 date=1291582313]
And just to confuse things a little bit more cantor Wagdy and recently also cantor Ibrahim recorded vespers for the above feasts in annual tune (as far as I can remember)..…
[quote author=Hos Erof link=topic=10098.msg123525#msg123525 date=1291580344]
IT's interesting to note that the Lakaan of Covenent Thursday is done after matins, but then again, that day has unique rites when it comes to so many things.
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well…
[quote author=Meena_Ameen link=topic=10104.msg123516#msg123516 date=1291579459]
Hey guys, does anyone have a link that tells you all the dates and times when you are suppose to sing a certain hymn or certain days for saints and which saints your sup…
[quote author=josephgabriel link=topic=10103.msg123507#msg123507 date=1291578333]
you say the 1st week response from kiahk 1 to the saturday right before the 2nd sunday.
Yes, but I asked about the gap between the beginning of the month of Kiahk to t…
[quote author=josephgabriel link=topic=10103.msg123500#msg123500 date=1291577763]
[quote author=minagir link=topic=10103.msg123499#msg123499 date=1291577536]
that is right.....the gospel response for the first week is supposed to be said from the 1s…
[quote author=mechaiel link=topic=10098.msg123479#msg123479 date=1291558734]
(2) The Feast of Epiphany
(A) Vespers: Same order as Nativity except you say the Epiphany hymns and (Je ak-chi-oms)
(B) Lakkan (Liturgy of the water)
(C) Matins: Same…
[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123496#msg123496 date=1291575670]
I don't think the number of the days matter. So even if Kiahk starts on a Monday you'd still say the first Sunday Gospel response for 13 days before switching. That's my un…