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Ok points taken. Thanks for giving the time to reply to my post. God bless you and pray for us a lot
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DEar father Peter, I never alluded to anything to mean that only Coptic conveys the truth. What I meant was an echo to my previous posts of conveying the meaning of the music and that's all. DEar hos erof, The apostle St. Mark let go of the Jewish m…
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I agree with Father Peter that all languages are beautiful, and maybe even (as I heard someone here before) Italian sounds better than Coptic in faster-tempo hymns like[coptic] ari'alin[/coptic] for example, but certainly none of those languages wil…
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Yes Geomike, I admire your zeal but no one would listen trust me. The youth are too stubborn to listen - if you give them an inch they will take a yard and that is it. [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Dear Geomike, It is happening already. I heard it being sung in English (and in its joyful tune as well). Seriously, in some time we will not be singing Coptic again in the Coptic church. Why should we? [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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That is probably mirroring what used to happen in Egypt (or maybe still is). My answer: stick to Coptic hymns and teach people to love them and understand them. Difficult yes, but who said church going and serving would be easy? God bless us all and…
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Dear Zoxsasi, I disagree. I may presume that Anba Angelos meant singing Catholic sings in things like prayer meetings, and youth meetings, which is something I am against also, but to adopt it in the church. I don't think so. [coptic]oujai qen `P[C…
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Dear Zoxsasi, Are you sure you are not someone else in disguise? You remind me of someone who was on this forum before in your style of debating... that is a joke by the way... as I assume you told a joke earlier. Dear Father Peter, I completely und…
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Dear Ioannes, Again I hope I haven't offended you... Please don't forget us in your prayers... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Dear Father Peter, My posts surely gave you a very fake idea on who I am. Am I really anything of what you alluded to? Not very sure, but in all honesty I would love down to the core of my heart to be able to help, and to suggest some English hymns …
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[quote author=Ioannes link=topic=9904.msg121343#msg121343 date=1288105820] I am officially separating myself from the COC because of the fact it refuses to use a language that is universal so that converts can understand. I should not have to compla…
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Sorry Zoxsasi I edited the post above. Dear Father Peter, The very point I am talking about is that you mentioned;[coptic] agioc o :eoc [/coptic]is not a Coptic hymn, and yet it was not translated, so that it doesn't lose its meaning (musically as w…
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=9904.msg121340#msg121340 date=1288104049] I know several cases of where people became Christian just on hearing Thok-Te-Gom and Golgotha whilst passing by the Church. They understood the meaning from the melody. THe…
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Dear gr, Thanks for your comments. If I am as you say resurrecting this topic for the millionth time, then at least I am lucky to get you to reply to my thread so that I can learn from every body's opinion. However, you seem to be forgetting many th…
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Thanks Zoxsasi. I hope every one gets that point...
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Good but not good enough for my liking
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Completely agree. Just hope that people do start to care... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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That is good for me to hear... but I am not sure that every body is aware of that... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Thanks for the clarification Zoxsasi. Not sure if I'm convinced though.
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Well Zoxsasi we're surely not looking for comparisons and equality with muslims in this discussion, are we?
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OK, so may I take this thread a step further, and I really need you all to participate please... What about Christian children in Egypt who share in celebrating Ramadhan, with lanterns, and fireworks. To me I really think it is like eating halal me…
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Hehe... I think you are right. I'm ageing very quickly. I just hope I won't be dementing that quickly. The funny thing is that I went to Egypt in April and I'm still struggling. Hehe
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OK ilovesaintmark. I'm glad you understand my point clearly. God bless you and please pray for us a lot
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DEar Mina, I was talking about you coming from Tanta or somewhere near but I couldn't remember... hehe DEar Kiro7 and ilovesaintmark, Please refer to my post above and try to learn Coptic the accurate way rather than the flawed way. BAsically aba is…
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Dear Mina, Fayat? Or Fayad? I never heard these names before, but maybe nearer to Tanta by origin (is it Tanta or not?!!!!!!!!!!! can't remember now), maybe you have some inside knowledge. In fact, if anything this proves how wrong is the Greco-Boha…
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Yes[coptic] `P[C_nai_nan[/coptic], The unfortunate thing actually is that those schools adopted the teaching of the flawed Greco-Bohairic accent, as people who left Egypt probably didn't have much knowledge of what authentic Coptic is. That only cam…
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Dear Mina, Thank you for your opinion that's very practical. Look I was talking on scientific terms but I never alluded to reviving Coptic at the scale of Egypt as a whole. But truthfully I think we as Christians ought to use it much more at the ver…
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God bless you ilovesaintmark... please don't forget to mention us in your prayers, as we do the same to you... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Dear ilovesaintmark, Thought we already mentioned that in a previous thread... I did start praying for you long ago when we had exchanges in that previous one, but it is the first time that I exchange postings with Godlovesme, and that is why I aske…
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God bless your efforts and your enthusiasm. I believe, at least personally speaking if everybody starts with themselves the language will be in a much better place. So pray for me as well please