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[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=9921.msg121487#msg121487 date=1288282638] But they are not 'our hymns' surely. There is no such thing as 'our' anything in the Church. We are only Orthodox Christians, or we are nothing. If we are Orthodox C…
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I think it would annoy you rightly so, as well as Bshp Angelos if they adopt it as theirs. I was thinking that they should pray using our hymns, but acknowledge that they are ours. Just my personal opinion. [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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In fact that makes me happy. That is an indirect message for them of the beauty of the Coptic hymns (even when translated), as you can see. Let them use it in their churches, but what will their bishops say? Hehe... in any case as I remember minagir…
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God bless all your efforts Zoxsasi and the efforts of people preaching Christ to the nations by every means. Pray for us a lot please
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Dear baladoos, I find it nice really. I guess you are the one who did it (not a friend)... I very much like your enthusiasm and the style, but I don't like using English letters to transliterate the Coptic (shouldn't be that hard to type a few Copti…
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Oh OK... thanks for the clarification Zoxsasi [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Dear Zoxsasi, Thanks very much for your comments. You are right I used some kind of sentimental "sensalisation" as you called it, and exaggeration, but that is just to stimulate people to think. Now I think I drove people to take an opposing side to…
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Ok points taken. Thanks for giving the time to reply to my post. God bless you and pray for us a lot
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DEar father Peter, I never alluded to anything to mean that only Coptic conveys the truth. What I meant was an echo to my previous posts of conveying the meaning of the music and that's all. DEar hos erof, The apostle St. Mark let go of the Jewish m…
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I agree with Father Peter that all languages are beautiful, and maybe even (as I heard someone here before) Italian sounds better than Coptic in faster-tempo hymns like[coptic] ari'alin[/coptic] for example, but certainly none of those languages wil…
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Yes Geomike, I admire your zeal but no one would listen trust me. The youth are too stubborn to listen - if you give them an inch they will take a yard and that is it. [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Dear Geomike, It is happening already. I heard it being sung in English (and in its joyful tune as well). Seriously, in some time we will not be singing Coptic again in the Coptic church. Why should we? [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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That is probably mirroring what used to happen in Egypt (or maybe still is). My answer: stick to Coptic hymns and teach people to love them and understand them. Difficult yes, but who said church going and serving would be easy? God bless us all and…
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Dear Zoxsasi, I disagree. I may presume that Anba Angelos meant singing Catholic sings in things like prayer meetings, and youth meetings, which is something I am against also, but to adopt it in the church. I don't think so. [coptic]oujai qen `P[C…
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Dear Zoxsasi, Are you sure you are not someone else in disguise? You remind me of someone who was on this forum before in your style of debating... that is a joke by the way... as I assume you told a joke earlier. Dear Father Peter, I completely und…
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Dear Ioannes, Again I hope I haven't offended you... Please don't forget us in your prayers... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Dear Father Peter, My posts surely gave you a very fake idea on who I am. Am I really anything of what you alluded to? Not very sure, but in all honesty I would love down to the core of my heart to be able to help, and to suggest some English hymns …
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[quote author=Ioannes link=topic=9904.msg121343#msg121343 date=1288105820] I am officially separating myself from the COC because of the fact it refuses to use a language that is universal so that converts can understand. I should not have to compla…
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Sorry Zoxsasi I edited the post above. Dear Father Peter, The very point I am talking about is that you mentioned;[coptic] agioc o :eoc [/coptic]is not a Coptic hymn, and yet it was not translated, so that it doesn't lose its meaning (musically as w…
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[quote author=Zoxsasi link=topic=9904.msg121340#msg121340 date=1288104049] I know several cases of where people became Christian just on hearing Thok-Te-Gom and Golgotha whilst passing by the Church. They understood the meaning from the melody. THe…
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Dear gr, Thanks for your comments. If I am as you say resurrecting this topic for the millionth time, then at least I am lucky to get you to reply to my thread so that I can learn from every body's opinion. However, you seem to be forgetting many th…
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Thanks Zoxsasi. I hope every one gets that point...
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Good but not good enough for my liking
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Completely agree. Just hope that people do start to care... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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That is good for me to hear... but I am not sure that every body is aware of that... [coptic]oujai qen `P[C[/coptic]
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Thanks for the clarification Zoxsasi. Not sure if I'm convinced though.
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Well Zoxsasi we're surely not looking for comparisons and equality with muslims in this discussion, are we?
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OK, so may I take this thread a step further, and I really need you all to participate please... What about Christian children in Egypt who share in celebrating Ramadhan, with lanterns, and fireworks. To me I really think it is like eating halal me…
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Hehe... I think you are right. I'm ageing very quickly. I just hope I won't be dementing that quickly. The funny thing is that I went to Egypt in April and I'm still struggling. Hehe
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OK ilovesaintmark. I'm glad you understand my point clearly. God bless you and please pray for us a lot