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[quote author=epchois_nai_nan link=topic=10615.msg129619#msg129619 date=1296811793] Most of the time, the 'weak' definite article simply emphasises the specialness of the thing, but when you use it to directly address someone, its the equivalent of …
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Ebouro 'nhirene is not a proper construction. I guess you want to say ebouro 'nhirenekon, but even that is still hefty for my ears. Don't forget also a very important usage of 'm and 'n but not 'nda is the attachment to the object of the sentence: D…
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I don't think I can add any piece of knowledge to what has been said already. I will try but I don't think I'll be able to go that far back as ebshois and dzheremi did... thanks for the great insight... Oujai
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The word is romi /romi/ and sometimes esp in Sa'idic /ra:ma/. Don't know the etymology, but may look it up if ebshoisnainan hasn't a quicker answer... Oujai
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@ mabsoota, Oujai khan ebshois means: be well in the Lord... not walk. I never heard that expression before... Oujai
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DEAr geomike15000, MY faith is not that strong but I'm hoping and praying that God continue what He started, so I ask you to pray with me, for me, and for Egypt as well. PRayer changed the geography of the land of Egypt, and therefore it can change …
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He who let all of this happen for the blood of the Christians that was shed over more than 30 years won't let something bad to happen to Egypt now. But yes we have to be stronger in faith, and heavier in prayers... Oujai
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Dear ebshoisnainan, I am not sure of your argument when you were talking about 'p' vs 'b'. According to the link you provided: http://copticsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/thesoundsofoldbohairic.pdf the author seems to explain that the 'p' sound…
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Thanks dear . You will notice that the name did not change as I said, but the city assumed a rather Bohairic (coming from the Greek) pronunciation for /hutrebat/ into /atriba/, or /adriba/ - The h, and "ayn" tend to soften down, and disappear altoge…
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Dear all, Don't forget the power of the verbal transmission of traditions in the Coptic Orthodox church. We learnt many things through such. Whether some people were amplifying, or magnifying the information to make it sound or look better, I am not…
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@ ebshois nai nan, Shamy refers to either Syrian or Lebanese. That tune is not genuinely pharaonic. As for omonoganees is was written by pope Severus of Antioch, but not sure of the origin of the tune. @ father Peter, I doubt you'll find any eviden…
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Ebouro is known to be a pharaonic tune sung at the enthroning of the king (and maybe his birthdays). Bakatronos is not a pharaonic hymn; it's Syrian I think... Oujai
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@ pharoh123, agreed completely Oujai
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I don't get your first point. As for the second, I will argue that we started annual tasbeha for Bright Saturday and still we have to go back to edribian tunes, even if for half of the readings... Oujai
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Two interesting points I've thought about: 1. During apocalypse night we sing some psalms' sections but we never use a refrain. Why then does it have to be every other occasion we make up a refrain... 2. How do we sing psalm 150 joyous during laqqan…
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I am not sure for the references of 'p' vs 'b'. I understand there were only very few words in Demotic language using the former, but they were disused due to connotations with idolatry, and had no place in Coptic anymore. Note the Sa'idic Besada fo…
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I dislike specifying rules for any letters in any language. Please just tell us the ways each letter can be pronounced without specifying rules... Examples: cell - cello give - gin row - row allylouia - karicmoc tekmetagatoc oujai
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WHich should be done with some thought and not corrupt the tune of the psalm. Guys, remember please we're singing a psalm, words of a psalm. WE're not singing an incident or one occasion (unless it fits with the wording of the psalm of course) OUjai
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TITL, don't be deceived. Israel has enough on its plate to think about, and yes they supplied the weapons to Egypt because they wouldn't mind seeing the army kill its own people... where did you get the notion that the army are the good guys? Just b…
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Of course I am the first one to apologise to you abouna and any other newcomer to the Coptic orthodox faith. That said some people argue "it's just a different practice, don't be too pedantic" when the reality of the matter is that the ego is itchin…
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That's exactly what I'm saying the_least, but that doesn't mean I'll offer him the microphone to chant in his language hymns from his church, nor put up icons of his own church either. Oujai
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See guys this is continual innovation and invention in the church without knowledge, or commonsense. Psalm 150 is a psalm talking about God, why do we have to add something related to prophets' works to it. That's all what I meant to say in the psal…
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I agree with your last post Hezekiel Oujai
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DEAR the_least, I'm not sure why you were so surprised, or maybe offended by my previous post when I mentioned Coptic congregation. I guess you took that to mean Egyptian excluding newcomers, which wasn't actually my definition. Coptic doesn't just …
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NEws now less tentative than before: both gamal and Alaa president's sons are in London now with their families, following the swearing in of Omar Suliman as vice president, who was/is the head of the intelligence services. He's loved by Egyptians i…
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Dear the_least, I have a feeling you're mixing things up to prove a point, don't mean to be rude but this is how I understood or misunderstood your post. Not venerating the icon material doesn't mean it can just be anything. We acknowledge martyrs a…
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Reports all but rumours... Mubarak announced he's staying as president, and will disband the government and form a new one. Trust me this is not a joke... hehe Oujai
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Unconfirmed reports that Mubarak fled in a private jet to Saudi Arabia. TWo or three days ago his son gamal and wife Suzan fled to London with luggage of over 97 bags... OUjai
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DEar epiphania, Appreciating the logic and workmanship of others doesn't really compel us to include them in our church. I know there are many arguments posted, but for me we shouldn't adopt them fullstop, not because they are ugly or less expressiv…