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Excellently said dzheremi and minatasgeel. Oujai qen `P[C
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Dear deaconmark123 and George_Mina_Awad, Inside the church, no eating should be allowed (even out of Liturgy times), or chewing gums, or any other act that can show a very small amount of disrespect. The Church teaches us that Her womb (where we go …
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The hymn makes perfect sense to me since I tried to contemplate and with some basic knowledge of Coptic (not even Greek). The structure of the sentence for me reads like that: "The Lord, O Father, Who speaks in Heavenly Truth (referring to the Lord …
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Dear Cephas, I guess you want to disagree but essentially you are saying the same thing that I am with one exception. I am saying that the Coptic Orthodox Church has a dual role (as in an earlier post, not sure you already read it): 1. serving the C…
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Yes Unworthy1, St. Paul in his second letter to the Corinthians tells them bluntly that he didn't want to impose on anybody and got money from other churches. However, I don't know why this post again is going into the direction of the COC being a …
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Dear Remenkimi, I may go tomorrow to church, and ask them to pronounce every 'a' letter as an 'o' and the followers of the church will follow me blindly. Then next generation Egyptians will adopt the same teaching, and in almost 40- 50 years' time w…
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Very well said Stavro... Oujai
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Dear Remenkimi, I don't think that you are ready (or will ever be) to accept the fact that a made up language doesn't stand up to being a language or a dialect in the first place. What you argue about societal, political or other forces cannot in it…
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Thanks a lot imikhail. My preferred e-mail address is: ophadece@hotmail.com; but if you still want to use the one here on tasbeha.org, doesn't make a big difference. Oujai qen `P[C
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Dear imikhail, I hope I can get my hands on a copy as well if you don't mind. Oujai qen `P[C
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On reflection there is no need for me to give any more examples than the references imikhail posted before. If people however think I should do, let me know. Dear Remenkimi, What evidence of use are you talking about to prove authenticity? There is …
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I'll come to that post later to answer Cephas' queries with a few examples. I have to also say that Remenkimi bearing on himself this scholastic views about languages should admit there are certain facts he wasn't aware of and learn from the lowly o…
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Ok Remenkimi, thanks for explaining your stance. As imikhail said, there are actually both Armenian and Syrian orthodox churches in Cairo, if not even in other cities. Definitely no Indian as far as I'm aware, but not sure about eritrean or ethiopia…
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God bless you and keep us in your prayers... Oujai
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Dear Zoxsasi my brother, Go and re-read your post. You addressed me, are you aware? Or ashamed? Doesn't make a difference really. I think you are so resistant to discussion, and I really cannot see myself having a sane argument with you, for many re…
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Dear Cephas, You are serious, aren't you? OK, so Coptic is nearly extinct and it is a dead language? Good to know how you view the different adjectives lie on your spectrum. Anyway, I will let it go as you say... Sorry to have disturbed you by my pe…
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So you insulted me Zoxsasi. OK, may God bless you man... pray for us please
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Dear Cephas, I can see that on the wikipedia page you referred us to, one of the references is about "a Coptic family who still speaks Coptic language" (can't remember the name right now - I am at work). So that is in addition to the family of Ms Mo…
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Dear Zoxsasi, First of all, one cannot forget his past, or his personal make-up when they move to another country. Forgetting your identity, or even only the things you learnt in childhood, and grew up with is a grave sin (I may argue). Only snakes …
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Dear Remenkimi, Evangelical churches in Egypt (as I found on wikipedia) are part of the "North American" denomination - that is as far as I could understand. So that is an example of a missionary church, who speak Arabic in Egypt, an Arab-speaking c…
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Dear Remenkimi, First of all, I wasn't talking about Evangelist churches. I was merely talking about Church of England churches in Egypt. They speak English in Egypt. I don't exactly know what you watch on TV. I am not talking about kassr el dobara …
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Dear Biboboy, Thanks for your examples man, now I can see you're on the same wavelength as I am Oujai
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That is absolutely clear, and I agree about that 100%. I am not as knowledgeable, but I do have good observation skills. I totally agree about mixing Coptic liturgies as well. Oujai qen `P[C
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imikhail, Please let me clarify: are you talking about other sister Orthodox churches using the premises of the Coptic church and praying their liturgies, with Coptic congregation and priests present? If so then I am with you. Or are you talking abo…
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Dear Fr. Peter and all, I wasn't actually talking about Coptic language as such, but as traditions and values in the Egyptian cultural context in general. Yes language is part of that, but not every thing. Please forgive me if I say that you give a …
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Is that the case? I am not a hundred percent certain I have to say... have to check and get back to you on that one... Oujai qen `P[C
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Imikhail, So a Coptic priest cannot pray a Coptic liturgy in another Orthodox Church? Neither can any other Orthodox priest from a sister church pray in a Coptic church except a Coptic liturgy? And then we have another whole thread of 6 pages long (…
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Dear Fr. Peter, and joseph.vandenbrink, Let me say this in disagreement with Fr. Peter, the point I will always live disagreeing with him about: my basic understanding of the Coptic Church in the diaspora is to BOTH (1) serve the Coptic community li…
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DEar Zoxsasi, You aren't getting imikhail's point. If those Kenyans pray in the Coptic church they would follow the Coptic liturgy, otherwise form their own church of kenyan orthodox church. Simple as. But for the Coptic church to adopt African trad…