Dear Mina,
What I meant was Adam hymns don't follow the same arrangement as watos ones, they don't have the same structure as such.
As for supplication verses in the lobshes I said that it seems to me, so that explains I have no references or proof…
Dear Mina,
You mean marenwonh, right? I don't know the exact answer but it seems to me that the supplication verses towards the end aren't genuine in annual seasonal tune! I thought they were only borrowed in terms of the tune from Kiahk. Adam tune…
Completely agreed mzaki, but I probably wasn't clear. What I meant is that there's no psalmody book that has this written as instructions, not even the so-called Kiahk psalmody..
Oujai
Very well said RamezM. I do feel that some cantors use their status to give them a carte blanche to canonizing certain teachings that not everybody agrees to. Another point is as you rightly say some practices varied between different parts of Egypt…
I'm not sure these are valid arguments.. while I do love everything Coptic and repeating Coptic hymns so that they are pretty easily learnt I dislike the argument of 'it's a nice hymn why don't we say it throughout the year?' That doesn't sit right …
Dear Mina,
baketronos is a Lebanese/Syrian tune not pharaonic. Childoforthodoxy and drewhalim make a good point though, where to draw the line, and what date could we say we're not creating ANYMORE?
For me the principle is this: what I inherit from…
I personally am against this idea. I hope we revive the uncared for hymns and there are many rather than doing such. There are already a few examples where cantors sing some hymns differently because of inconsistencies in teaching so please no other…
That's right, Mashenak is watos. I'm not one for making up tunes. If a tune is lost, it's lost. But to revive it willy nilly? I don't know. I disagree drewhalim, there are no exceptions. It's basic, easy, and straightforward. The structure of the po…
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An Update:
I've asked Deacon Albier Gamal about our discussion.
1-He declared that the two Adam Doxologies "Evol hiten eb esnof" & "Amoini tirou nipistos" are said like…
Thanks dear rebecca.ann; looks like you're really a very mature person knowing what exactly you want and how to achieve it. God bless you and continue with you what you started, and with your fiance too..
Oujai
Dear Faithful Servant 1,
Why would you really think that somebody may have had the time to chant that hymn in its entirety? At a time when people plead with the authorities to shorten the time the Liturgy takes, I don't think you will ever find that…
Not sure if that is too late to reply now dear rebecca.ann, so if you have already found your answer, ignore me. I have been having unfortunate internet problems; so I am sorry (besides I am not sure if what I'll say is valid enough.. hehe).
So all…
Dear LordHaveMercyOnMe,
First of all I work as a psychiatrist so there are things I can't say here to you. You may pm me if you like. The important thing though is that you have to tell your psychologist and a priest, and it doesn't make a differenc…
Dear happyjoy,
Please use a capital g for the word God. Only He will be able to answer you. I don't think any body here will be able to give you any mature advice or information except the lady herself. You should just be prepared to find many cultu…
Thanks dear mabsoota, exactly the same here and even more. I hope we meet again soon, will let you know whenever I go to the Midlands assuming you still work there, and you tell me also if at any time you plan on coming to the north east..
Oujai
Thanks mabsoota. Hehe.. you're more than capable of giving the addresses yourself, better than me.. hehe
There you go Pano5,
First church: St. Mary and Archangel Michael's Coptic Orthodox Cathedral
Caldwell Grove, Solihull
second one:
St. Mary and …
Dear Bishoy.Adel,
What is life? Life has no meaning and is worth nothing. Be sure that God takes people at their best ever chance possible. What He sees no man can. The more important thing is eternal life, even if some people die younger than you. …